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vickygleitz
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21 Aug 2014, 3:14 pm

So, the "experts" so often mention the fact that Autistics have no understanding or appreciation of irony. I find that rather ironic because one of my special interests is "playing" with the irony of so many NT priorities.

One example. As many of you know, we are attempting to put together the start of an intentional Autistic comunity within an already existing community in Pueblo CO. My 20 year old son is in the process of buying the first home for it [closing September 15] We are thinking of good Autistic businesses, and the one I am MOST excited about, is a consignment shop for high-end womens' clothing.

People who know me and know about this seem more than a little confused about how excited about this particular potential project I am. You see, I've always been a sweats and a t-shirt person [except when I feel like dressing up, but when I do that it is me "playing"] so why be desperately desiring to cater to the whimsies of "women who worship the label"? Because I find the irony of making money off of the pretentiousness of those who consider themselves to be "the best at being NT"[ and really, so authentic ] hilarious. And fun! [and of course,profitable]

Anyone else who gets a kick out of irony? [ Ido not mean sad or tragic irony, I am referring more to hypocrisy and humorous irony]



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21 Aug 2014, 3:36 pm

The experts also say that people with Asperger's don't have a great grasp of humor. This of course is because people with Asperger's tend to look for explanations of how things work and why things are a certain way. The best humor is when something is so funny that stopping to ask why is even more bizarre than the humor itself, and takes away from the comedy. So at least with humor, the experts are on the right track, but the conclusion is still wrong. It's probably something similar with irony. I know with my point about comedy, the world is bizarre enough for Aspies, so humor that reflects a world that is often confusing to function in isn't going to hit close enough to home to be legitimately funny. Maybe with irony, its assumed that we don't understand enough about social norms to recognize irony.



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21 Aug 2014, 4:08 pm

I love irony and it depends on what it is, hypocrisy grinds my gears. One of my favorites was when some mother wrote an article about her three year old being an as*hole and I was shocked at the title but when I read the article, I saw it was just humor and in the comments parents played along with her by saying what as*hole things their kids do at that age and some others took her humor seriously and slammed her for calling her kid an as*hole. And I thought we were the ones who were supposed to not get humor so I find it hilarious. There have been others online with that same humor so the mother wasn't the only one who did that humor. It's my type of humor so maybe that's why I picked up on it so easily through text. It's like how a parent or someone may call someone a brat because they tricked them but they don't mean it. I used t call my neighbor my pesky neighbor because of things he would do my mom didn't like. He loved the name. But yet I didn't know my mom was using irony when she would call herself cheap or when I would get called cheap. So I had learned the wrong definition of the word. Perhaps if I knew what the word implied and meant, then I would have known she was being ironic.

What else I find funny is how people without Asperger's have bad social skills because of things they are doing like pushing an shoving and being impatient and asking someone if they're pregnant or how people don't get hints when they start talking to me and I am busy playing my game or reading. Or how creepy men can get online when it comes to women when it comes to diapers and they have the worst social skills than an autistic. It's also funny how people can be unintentionally insulting or when they try and give support when it comes to a loss or having a kid with a disability and I thought we were the ones who were supposed to have that issue. It makes me feel so normal like maybe I don't have any problems after all and my problems are normal. I also remember the time when Portland got hit with snow for three weeks and lot of people in the area were panicking and didn't handle the change well and at the autism group, I was surprised how well we all handled this change, especially with the group being cancelled that month. So I said "We all switched places, they were the aspies and we were all NT" and everyone laughed. One person said it had more to do with us being logical than NTs so they were all panicking because they couldn't think logically and we did so we stayed calm and handled it better than they did. But I found it all ironic because they said we have a hard time dealing with change and there was lot of people having a hard time with the change and we handled it so well. I don;t know if this was irony but I remember making a joke about Cruella De Vil having Asperger's and my aspie friends found it funny. But when I told it on IMDB on the message board about the movie, it backfired so it upset me. But the irony part is they were all aspies who got upset with it so I was butthurt and offended they took offense and gee it does say aspies don't understand humor so why get upset?


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