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25 Aug 2014, 12:25 pm

My ASD puts me on the part of the spectrum formally known as Aspergers.

I know in my mind what I want to say and how I want to say it.
I usually make mess of this and I get really nervous.

Is being non verbal the same thing only more severe?

If this is the case I can not comprehend how frustrating this must feel.



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25 Aug 2014, 12:38 pm

I'm curious about this too. I'm also curious about how much being non-verbal is a choice. When I am extremely upset I stop talking because I can't find the words I want to say. I could still speak, but it would be meaningless. I guess what I'm asking is, does non-verbal mean the language centers in your brain stop working, or does it mean you choose to be mute because talking is too frustrating? Not trying to offend, I am genuinely curious and want to learn.


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25 Aug 2014, 1:23 pm

If they are non verbal, how are they going to tell you? :wink:


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25 Aug 2014, 1:24 pm

From what I have read, plenty of nonverbal people have no problem typing or writing.


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25 Aug 2014, 1:32 pm

Cvulgaris wrote:
From what I have read, plenty of nonverbal people have no problem typing or writing.


<Sigh>. Jokes are wasted on some folks. :joker:


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25 Aug 2014, 1:34 pm

OH! lol my bad. If you haven't guessed--I'm very literal.


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25 Aug 2014, 1:36 pm

sharkattack wrote:
My ASD puts me on the part of the spectrum formally known as Aspergers.

I know in my mind what I want to say and how I want to say it.
I usually make mess of this and I get really nervous.

Is being non verbal the same thing only more severe?

If this is the case I can not comprehend how frustrating this must feel.


Yup basically stole the words out of my mouth I deal with the whole trying to say the words in my head out loud, I can't even imagine not being able to verbalized at all :cry:



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25 Aug 2014, 1:40 pm

TallyMan wrote:
Cvulgaris wrote:
From what I have read, plenty of nonverbal people have no problem typing or writing.


<Sigh>. Jokes are wasted on some folks. :joker:


I did not get the joke at first I am a bit slow that way.

Autism you have got to love it. :lol:



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25 Aug 2014, 1:50 pm

Cvulgaris wrote:
OH! lol my bad. If you haven't guessed--I'm very literal.


That is why you don't see a jokes section on an autism forum.

The only people worse then us at humour are the Germans. :D



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25 Aug 2014, 1:52 pm

TallyMan wrote:
If they are non verbal, how are they going to tell you? :wink:


i know its a joke but seriously, i think that even if it's not possible to organise your own thoughts, sometimes people can say things and you can be like, "thats how i feel".

So i mean, you can be not able to express yourself but still recognise your own feelings in someone elses words.



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25 Aug 2014, 2:04 pm

From my experience, very frustrating. You can't defend yourself or explain your intentions to people if they thought you did something intentionally. I didn't have any words to explain because I didn't know the words. Even though I could talk, I was still language delayed and didn't know how to express myself verbally and know the words and I didn't know lot of words as other kids my age knew. I always had to show people and point what I wanted and not everyone understood. Only my parents did. I always assumed being non verbal meant unable to talk. But I realize it can also mean not speaking well and don't have a lot of language. Also try imagining having all these feelings and you don't know how to tell them to people so you have to show it. I used to bite and scratch and hit and pinch other people. Now I just say it pisses me off, it makes me mad, it's annoying, I also say stop.

I got Tallyman's joke, he had the face next to it.


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25 Aug 2014, 2:16 pm

I have terrible difficulty expressing myself verbally. Even though I am able to talk.

It's caused me a lot of problems in my life.

When I was younger (until my late 20's) I would act out my anger and frustration through damaging property, hitting out at people and harming myself.

I still am mainly mute (as I call it) but I am sort of learning how to express how I feel in a more constructive way.

I've recently learned how to express my hatred (I know that my sound a bit primitive but for me it's a massive step). I'm going to learn how to verbally express all my emotions step by step. It's really liberating.

I think it might be severe anxiety that causes me to be non verbal. My psychiatrist said it all ties in with the autism.


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25 Aug 2014, 2:17 pm

It makes it much harder to communicate when you're non-verbal

It was even more difficult before the advent of AAC devices (Alternative and Augmentative Communication Devices).



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25 Aug 2014, 2:52 pm

I don't know what it's like to be nonverbal but it's frustrating to always wonder whether other people can understand what I say, despite trying really hard to make sense.



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25 Aug 2014, 5:38 pm

I personally don't have anything to contribute, but I asked my friend a year ago (who was completely non-verbal for years):

He told me that he didn't really notice that others were different, that his life was 'normal to him', because he was so absorbed into his own world. He only really became aware of language once he started talking, meaning prior to that he had no concern or frustration over the fact that he could not speak.

sharkattack wrote:
Cvulgaris wrote:
OH! lol my bad. If you haven't guessed--I'm very literal.


That is why you don't see a jokes section on an autism forum.

The only people worse then us at humour are the Germans. :D


If that's a South Park reference (the Germans), I just watched that episode. :!:


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25 Aug 2014, 5:55 pm

am non verbal by the traditional definition;not elective/mutism, mine is viewable under EEG- it also switches to non verbal mode which is where am verbal but completely echolalic.
its like being in a different dimension to the other person, running at a completely different speed,just feeling no connection to them whatsoever,have a habit of expecting the other person to know what am wanting to say to them and get very frustrated when they dont know.
dont feel pissed off for being non verbal and speech impaired, have always been this way so its just a part of life to self,it isnt something that notice until topics like this come up. its a challenge but its not impossible,will make voice heard in other ways.

although do have an AAC device,prefer to use PECS for alternative comms because its quicker to pick one off the PECS board on bedroom wall than it is to turn a tablet on.


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