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17 Oct 2014, 11:29 pm

This has always fascinated and enraged me, I could go on for hours about this but I'll be brief. Why is it that NTs are allowed to talk about me being socially awkward or boring or sheltered or a tw*t in front of my face? How come they get to act all benevolent for NOT having a go at me, how come they can scoff and laugh at the idea of others thinking that we are friends right in front of me? Why is it that when somebody tells me to f*ck off randomly and tension and hostility ensue I am blamed for not complying to their unreasonable demand? Why are they allowed to speak with a total disregard for my feelings or social security but if I speak a little monotone sometimes or apply logic to conversation I have to go and see a psychologist to learn how to be nice? How very rude of me to expect a more extensive explanation than "because you're annoying." Why do people act so high and mighty around me? Why do they treat listening to me or allowing me to be around them as a privilege not a right? I know the whole "wrong planet" concept might be a little silly but I genuinely believe the only reason I'm the "problem child" is becauseI'm in a social minority.



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17 Oct 2014, 11:45 pm

Imperfect wrote:
This has always fascinated and enraged me, I could go on for hours about this but I'll be brief. Why is it that NTs are allowed to talk about me being socially awkward or boring or sheltered or a tw*t in front of my face? How come they get to act all benevolent for NOT having a go at me, how come they can scoff and laugh at the idea of others thinking that we are friends right in front of me? Why is it that when somebody tells me to f*ck off randomly and tension and hostility ensue I am blamed for not complying to their unreasonable demand? Why are they allowed to speak with a total disregard for my feelings or social security but if I speak a little monotone sometimes or apply logic to conversation I have to go and see a psychologist to learn how to be nice? How very rude of me to expect a more extensive explanation than "because you're annoying." Why do people act so high and mighty around me? Why do they treat listening to me or allowing me to be around them as a privilege not a right? I know the whole "wrong planet" concept might be a little silly but I genuinely believe the only reason I'm the "problem child" is becauseI'm in a social minority.


I agree with you. So many people are like that to me as well, and they say I don't care about their feelings when i ask them to explain some things they said, or tried to explain my views with logic. I have been bullied and kicked out of groups for being annoying because of asking for reasons and explanations.



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18 Oct 2014, 1:41 am

This drives me to the point of rage.
I've left groups because of it, because they act like I'm a naive little pet that doesn't know any better, when they are the ones who don't understand what I'm saying because they look for hidden meaning, when they are the ones being rude and condescending and when I dared mention that what they said hurt, oh I was so overreacting even though they were throwing a witch hunt for this other lady who didn't even say what they said she said!

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I need to go become a hermit or something... I could go on for hours too. Anyone who is not "socially acceptable" is automatically the scapegoat, the one who gets blamed for everything. I've watched it happen all the time to my brother too. All the freaking time. Respect, fairness, and justice are practically dead, even from people who started off as being "nice."


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18 Oct 2014, 1:51 am

Because they can because they outnumber us 25 to 1


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18 Oct 2014, 3:35 am

I think it's because of a lack of mutual understanding. They don't understand us and think they can say whatever they want and just go on insulting us; on the other hand we have grown up with movies, books and cartoons where most (if not all) characters are neurotypical. It doesn't mean we completely understand them, but we at least know enough to not openly mock, discriminate against them or just plain treat us like dirt.



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18 Oct 2014, 10:52 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Because they can because they outnumber us 25 to 1


I don't think it is just that - I don't think they even know about it (though my dad did go and disclose some information about my social position to a few people without my permission). I highly doubt that NTs do this because they want to, but they just act all condescending whenever I complain when somebody says "no-one likes you" or "your voice is so annoying". Most of them aren't bad people, and they don't really act like this with anyone else



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18 Oct 2014, 11:02 am

Imperfect wrote:
I'm the "problem child" is because I'm in a social minority.


That's true and we are always going to be a social minority outnumbered several to one. I guess for me - I just have to make the best of it that I can. What's the alternative?


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18 Oct 2014, 11:08 am

It's the culture. It's their rules. Majority rules. They're the majority; therefore it's their rules. But then those rules are never taught. When they subconsciously detected someone who can't comply, they see those who doesn't as... How do you call this... "Outsider" "Alien"... When a foreigner is being unintentionally funny or rude, the native, sometimes being secretly rude assuming the foreigner doesn't understand a word or a point of it, talking behind their native language. Even if the natives are inherently good samaritans or open-minded, there is at least one point they do this. As the foreigner's body language, more so on language; not fitting within the native's subconsciousness, they don't 'assume' or 'detect' the foreigner's feelings correctly. Or true intentions. Or even aware that the foreigner comprehends what's going on.

Correct me if I'm wrong with this post.


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18 Oct 2014, 11:57 am

Edna3362 wrote:
It's the culture. It's their rules. Majority rules. They're the majority; therefore it's their rules. But then those rules are never taught. When they subconsciously detected someone who can't comply, they see those who doesn't as... How do you call this... "Outsider" "Alien"... When a foreigner is being unintentionally funny or rude, the native, sometimes being secretly rude assuming the foreigner doesn't understand a word or a point of it, talking behind their native language. Even if the natives are inherently good samaritans or open-minded, there is at least one point they do this. As the foreigner's body language, more so on language; not fitting within the native's subconsciousness, they don't 'assume' or 'detect' the foreigner's feelings correctly. Or true intentions. Or even aware that the foreigner comprehends what's going on.

Correct me if I'm wrong with this post.


Yes, I often feel around other people the way I imagine a foreigner usually does. I say what I mean and don't hide behind repetitive social convention. So people 'talk loudly and slowly' at me as it were. NTs are easily threatened or put off by things they are unfamiliar with it seems.