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28 Nov 2014, 9:50 am

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Tweets like '#BoycottExodusMovie because it is a blunt disregard of historic facts!' and 'Blacks only cast as slaves, thieves...Not the Kings and Queens? I hope @ExodusMovie bombs at the box office..' have been seen on the feed under the hashtag. ...

Meanwhile, director of Exodus: Gods and Kings, Ridley Scott has told Variety that casting was a business decision. "I can't mount a film of this budget, where I have to rely on tax rebates in Spain, and say that my lead actor is Mohammad so-and-so from such-and-such," Scott said.


I'm surprised that this would happen in the 21st century.



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28 Nov 2014, 9:22 pm

androbot01 wrote:
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Tweets like '#BoycottExodusMovie because it is a blunt disregard of historic facts!' and 'Blacks only cast as slaves, thieves...Not the Kings and Queens? I hope @ExodusMovie bombs at the box office..' have been seen on the feed under the hashtag. ...

Meanwhile, director of Exodus: Gods and Kings, Ridley Scott has told Variety that casting was a business decision. "I can't mount a film of this budget, where I have to rely on tax rebates in Spain, and say that my lead actor is Mohammad so-and-so from such-and-such," Scott said.


I'm surprised that this would happen in the 21st century.


It's surprising, but it's not? Ridley Scott is just speaking the cold hard truth. The bottom line is and always will be money in Hollywood. You've got to have those bankable names on the marquee.

The Exodus version in the Bible is a bunch of bullspit, anyways. The truth is far more grounded in science and military tactics as far as to how the Jew's "escaped" Pharaoh and Egypt.



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28 Nov 2014, 9:38 pm

I'm surprised, but not amazed.

Did anyone else see the film "Noah"? The writers, producers, directors, and actors took far too many liberties with the story (I know because I read the book) just to make a profit.


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28 Nov 2014, 9:43 pm

Were the kings and queens "black"?

If I recall my small amount of history, Egypt was pretty much a pot full of various races (hell, even redheaded mercs. from the old country were there).

It wouldn't surprise me if the leaders were actually lighter skinned, though.



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28 Nov 2014, 9:57 pm

Is it strange that I want to see Exodus even though I'm a nonbeliever? It looked pretty epic from the commercials, and the fact it's directed by Ridley Scott is just icing on top.



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28 Nov 2014, 10:02 pm

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Did anyone else see the film "Noah"? The writers, producers, directors, and actors took far too many liberties with the story (I know because I read the book) just to make a profit.


I didn't like the movie for the reasons you said. Didn't know there was a book, unless you mean The Bible?


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Were the kings and queens "black"?

If I recall my small amount of history, Egypt was pretty much a pot full of various races (hell, even redheaded mercs. from the old country were there).

It wouldn't surprise me if the leaders were actually lighter skinned, though.


I also thought that lot of different races and cultures were there based on documentaries and such.



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28 Nov 2014, 10:35 pm

If the movie were based on the Leon Uris novel of the same name I would be interested in seeing it but I have no interest in seeing religious propaganda such as this.



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28 Nov 2014, 10:46 pm

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The Exodus version in the Bible is a bunch of bullspit, anyways. The truth is far more grounded in science and military tactics as far as to how the Jew's "escaped" Pharaoh and Egypt.

As much as I know there is no proof that mass slavery ever happened to Jews in Egypt. I don't know where your source for the "truth" come from, but it don't seem a very reliable source. Myths are more interesting with magic and fantasy anyway. (I don't say God don't exist, only that many stories in the Bible are myths.)
Though seing a black pharaoh would have been interesting.

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Were the kings and queens "black"?

If I recall my small amount of history, Egypt was pretty much a pot full of various races (hell, even redheaded mercs. from the old country were there).

It wouldn't surprise me if the leaders were actually lighter skinned, though.


Depend of what dynasty I guess, at least one of them was made of black peoples.

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Is it strange that I want to see Exodus even though I'm a nonbeliever? It looked pretty epic from the commercials, and the fact it's directed by Ridley Scott is just icing on top.

You don't need to believe in the greek gods to enjoy greek myths.



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28 Nov 2014, 11:05 pm

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Depend of what dynasty I guess, at least one of them was made of black peoples.


Is the one during the movie such a dynasty?



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28 Nov 2014, 11:35 pm

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Depend of what dynasty I guess, at least one of them was made of black peoples.


Is the one during the movie such a dynasty?

No idea...



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29 Nov 2014, 2:17 am

I didn't even know about the film until I heard of this boycott. "Guess I have to watch it to find out what all the fuss is about," some might think. Controversy is great marketing.



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29 Nov 2014, 8:49 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Is it strange that I want to see Exodus even though I'm a nonbeliever? It looked pretty epic from the commercials, and the fact it's directed by Ridley Scott is just icing on top.

Same with me. I really liked Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven too.


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29 Nov 2014, 4:01 pm

Well...atheists and Fundies can unite- in their common hatred of the movie.

Fundies hate it because it distorts the story as written in scripture. Secular historians can hate it because takes the already distorted story in the Bible (a story that distorts whatever kernals of historical truth it might have)-and distorts it even further via Hollywood. And Atheists hate it because they look upon it as religious propaganda.

Only the ticket buying public (by the tens of millions) will like it.



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29 Nov 2014, 9:10 pm

Fnord wrote:
I'm surprised, but not amazed.

Did anyone else see the film "Noah"? The writers, producers, directors, and actors took far too many liberties with the story (I know because I read the book) just to make a profit.


I can only guess what your opinion is on those Hobbit movies.



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29 Nov 2014, 9:12 pm

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Fnord wrote:
I'm surprised, but not amazed. Did anyone else see the film "Noah"? The writers, producers, directors, and actors took far too many liberties with the story (I know because I read the book) just to make a profit.
I can only guess what your opinion is on those Hobbit movies.
I haven't seen them; but I have read the books at least five times each since the 1960s.


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29 Nov 2014, 9:28 pm

Seems to be four issues here
i) the usual Hollywood appropriation of biblical tales into great dramas at the expense of religious sensitivity and theological accuracy
ii) The depiction of a multicultural/multiethnic society as ruled by northern Europeans largely because that's the way the mainstream population like to view movie characters, as people they can (and want to) relate to. Remember all the racist fuss over casting two black characters in the Hunger games because little girls didn't feel as sad seeing young black people depicted as heroes getting killed compared to (what they imagined) where Caucasians.
iii) The usual outcry by Afro-centrists who have a completely distorted view of history to compensate for a loss of social identity in modern America, they'll only be happy if Denzel Washington is Moses and Morgan Freeman is God
iv) Finally the problems Hollywood casting agents have in finding politically correct casting of African Americans in Hollywood movies who fit the characters they are trying to create. There simply isn't a great pool of talent to choose from especially since Bill Cosby won't be available.