"Quantum Theory Proves That Consciousness Moves to ...."

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30 Jan 2015, 5:56 pm

"The theory implies that death simply does not exist. It is an illusion which arises in the minds of people. It exists because people identify themselves with their body. They believe that the body is going to perish, sooner or later, thinking their consciousness will disappear too. In fact, consciousness exists outside of constraints of time and space."

http://earthweareone.com/quantum-theory ... ter-death/

Any one know if this site is trusthworthy or not? I only saw it because someone shared this article on Facebook; and I already despise this website because of the idiotic "like us on Facebook" pop-up box.

But personally, I disagree as I think when we are dead, we are in the "long sleep" (as death is sometimes called) - completely and utterly dead and with no "consciousness".



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30 Jan 2015, 5:59 pm

There's one thing that everybody wants to know: "Where do we go when we die?"



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30 Jan 2015, 7:36 pm

Can't say for sure, but it sounds like the usual case of trying to do physics with only metaphoric, descriptive models. Or, in other words, without any math. That can go wrong in so many ways -- they really need to know and show the math, especially if they're going to claim that they "proved" something.



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30 Jan 2015, 7:46 pm

Tigurinn wrote:
Any one know if this site is trusthworthy or not?


Penrose is legit enough, as for the rest of the site.. no idea
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Penrose's ideas about the human thought process are at present a minority view in scientific circles, citing Minsky's criticisms and quoting science journalist Charles Seife's description of Penrose as "one of a handful of scientists" who believe that the nature of consciousness suggests a quantum process.[19]

In January 2014 Hameroff and Penrose announced that a discovery of quantum vibrations in microtubules by Anirban Bandyopadhyay of the National Institute for Materials Science in Japan[24] confirms the hypothesis of Orch-OR theory.[25] A reviewed and updated version of the theory was published along with critical commentary and debate in the March 2014 issue of Physics of Life Reviews.[26]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Penrose#Physics_and_consciousness



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30 Jan 2015, 8:21 pm

The site pitches woo.

Dr. Lanza, on the other hand, is an American medical doctor, scientist, Chief Scientific Officer of Ocata Therapeutics, formerly named Advanced Cell Technology and Adjunct Professor at the Institute for Regenerative Medicine, Wake Forest University School of Medicine. Thus, he certainly has impressive credentials.

However, he seems to have fallen into the same trap that so many other scientific geniuses have fallen into before him - he seems to have assumed that his lofty perspective in one field automatically grants him equivalent expertise in other fields - physics, cosmology, and meta-physics, among others. This is called the Fallacy of False Authority, although most people refer to it as 'Hubris'.

Sure, he is exceptionally intelligent; certainly, his research into biology and genetics has already revolutionized the field of medicine in many ways; and there is no doubt that he is a leading expert in Life Science; but is he really in a position to determine what happens to people after they die? I don't think so.

Unless, of course, he is researching the biological processes involved when a body decays after death ...

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