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22 Apr 2015, 9:22 pm

Do you think NT girls/women are insensitive?

I'd like both AS men and women to chime in on this.



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23 Apr 2015, 1:48 am

Well I'm neurotypical, but let me just point out that you're talking about approximately 3.5 billion women in the world, and even if the 1/100 statistic for austism holds true, you're still talking about 3.4ish billion people. Do you think, statistically, that all of those people are insensitive?

Or is it possible that instead of being every woman being insensitive, there's just a miscommunication going on?

And why just women? Is it because you were rejected romantically?

My mother used to tell me if I met one jerk in a day, that person was a jerk. If I met nothing but jerks in a day, chances are I was the jerk.



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23 Apr 2015, 2:03 am

I know NT's who are sensitive and I've known NT's that were by no means sensitive. Oh wait, NTs collectively are the big bad evil of the world or something like that, I forgot. Yes, they're all insensitive and thrive on being intolerant in regards to our plight.



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23 Apr 2015, 2:17 am

Candor wrote:

And why just women? Is it because you were rejected romantically?

My mother used to tell me if I met one jerk in a day, that person was a jerk. If I met nothing but jerks in a day, chances are I was the jerk.


I simply wanted to know about women in this thread, that's all. There's no big conspiracy here. And no, this isn't about romance specifically - it is intended to be more general in scope.

I have no issues with you thinking or calling me a jerk. NTs and ASDers use different yardsticks for sensitivity and I wanted to know if other ASDers thought NT women were insensitive from their POV.



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23 Apr 2015, 4:15 am

No, based on my personal experience, I don't think women as a collective (!) are any more or less sensitive than men.

There's some scientific evidence which shows that male humans are more empathetic than female humans in laboratory settings, but I don't know whether that holds true in the real world.



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23 Apr 2015, 6:50 am

NT women insensitive? To my knowledge and experience, -NO.


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23 Apr 2015, 12:02 pm

Keep in mind that psychopaths (ASPD) and narcissists (NPD) can often pass for NTs in our eyes.
Also, keep in mind that a great many NTs actively emulate many outward behaviors of ASPD and NPD individuals.

edit: Also, the mental process of detachment/dissociation is actually desired and encouraged in many, perhaps even most, of our social structures. A lack of concern for others is a distinct advantage when one is trying to be upwardly mobile within hierarchies.


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23 Apr 2015, 12:24 pm

olympiadis wrote:
Keep in mind that psychopaths (ASPD) and narcissists (NPD) can often pass for NTs in our eyes.
Also, keep in mind that a great many NTs actively emulate many outward behaviors of ASPD and NPD individuals.

edit: Also, the mental process of detachment/dissociation is actually desired and encouraged in many, perhaps even most, of our social structures. A lack of concern for others is a distinct advantage when one is trying to be upwardly mobile within hierarchies.


So pretty much anything goes when it comes to climbing the ladder?



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23 Apr 2015, 12:34 pm

A lot are it seems



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23 Apr 2015, 5:12 pm

olympiadis wrote:
Keep in mind that psychopaths (ASPD) and narcissists (NPD) can often pass for NTs in our eyes.
Also, keep in mind that a great many NTs actively emulate many outward behaviors of ASPD and NPD individuals.

So what is the quickest/best way to distinguish an ASPD/NPD from a NT?

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edit: Also, the mental process of detachment/dissociation is actually desired and encouraged in many, perhaps even most, of our social structures. A lack of concern for others is a distinct advantage when one is trying to be upwardly mobile within hierarchies.


That sounds like low grade psychopathy in itself.



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23 Apr 2015, 5:18 pm

No, not every single NT woman is insensitive. However, my NT sister {who may be an Aspie herself} takes pride in being insensitive towards everyone.


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23 Apr 2015, 6:05 pm

Wow this thread...


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24 Apr 2015, 7:49 am

Just seem the most misunderstanding group, in general. I don't like to generalise, but I do just get on with NT women the least. Just feel like the complete opposite of me, even though I'm a girl myself. :?



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24 Apr 2015, 1:56 pm

rugulach wrote:
olympiadis wrote:
Keep in mind that psychopaths (ASPD) and narcissists (NPD) can often pass for NTs in our eyes.
Also, keep in mind that a great many NTs actively emulate many outward behaviors of ASPD and NPD individuals.

So what is the quickest/best way to distinguish an ASPD/NPD from a NT?

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edit: Also, the mental process of detachment/dissociation is actually desired and encouraged in many, perhaps even most, of our social structures. A lack of concern for others is a distinct advantage when one is trying to be upwardly mobile within hierarchies.


That sounds like low grade psychopathy in itself.



I don't know the answer to the first question. Apparently I'm not very good at it yet.

Yes, it outwardly appears psychopathic in nature, but it's not true psychopathy. Emotions and other inputs from the subconscious can only be suppressed for a limited amount of time.

Detachment often comes with a great amount of anxiety, and true psychopaths don't experience that.


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24 Apr 2015, 2:35 pm

olympiadis wrote:

Yes, it outwardly appears psychopathic in nature, but it's not true psychopathy. Emotions and other inputs from the subconscious can only be suppressed for a limited amount of time.


That is still enough time to wreak havoc in a victim's life. All right, call it temporary psychopathy then... Just like temporary insanity is not true insanity but still is insanity.



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24 Apr 2015, 2:40 pm

Candor wrote:
Well I'm neurotypical, but let me just point out that you're talking about approximately 3.5 billion women in the world, and even if the 1/100 statistic for austism holds true, you're still talking about 3.4ish billion people. Do you think, statistically, that all of those people are insensitive?

Or is it possible that instead of being every woman being insensitive, there's just a miscommunication going on?

And why just women? Is it because you were rejected romantically?

My mother used to tell me if I met one jerk in a day, that person was a jerk. If I met nothing but jerks in a day, chances are I was the jerk.

Wow I've never heard that saying before but it's so true! Your mom is right.


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