The more attractive-looking woman is the pickier...

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First all, while some beauty aspects are subjective, mostly, it is not: The majority of people often agree what's good-looking and what is not -weight and height have great impact on overall attractiveness as well.

And *most* people realize their own attractiveness scale, from comparing themselves to others, from comparing the other sex's reactions to them vs to others...etc, people learn sooner or later their attractiveness scale from multiple of sources and cues. Meaning, that a conventionally beautiful woman/man usually realizes she/he is so, same for the conventionally unattractive.

The title is a known fact taboo that everyone don't like to admit, no?

Here is study about this correlation:
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHar ... id=4521988


and it's pretty consistent with anecdotal evidences we see around us: viewtopic.php?t=287210

It's probably why I often see equally short guys with heavy girls (really heavier than their guys).


It also consistent with an OKcupid stat, which makes things pretty clear: Men have better chances with women who are less handsome than themselves.

There's also a matter of supply and demand, most people prefer the better looking people, so the better looking people have more supply ==> More suitors ==> affording to be pickier ==> higher standards.

It's pretty consistent with my experiences too:
- Like for example yesterday, a girl who I don't even know, kept awkwardly looking at me, smiling...and she kept asking me if I wanna take the next machine...uhm, her interest was obvious. This girl is twice my weight and even taller than me.
- Few days, another girl who's also overweight approached me telling me 'nice shape you have there' .... uhm...her interest was so obvious too.
- In Online dating, the fastest ones who give away their phone numbers to me (like from 2nd message) *always* happen to be overweight girls, I don't find out that until I see their full body photo later - which is often cropped or taken in certain angle on their profile.
- Also girls who lose weight, elevate their standards: You see them talking with handsome guys that they didn't dare to talk to before, I have witnessed this in girls who lost weight quickly. I had a buddy who was really overweight, and she always told me about specific very handsome (tall and dark) guys but she never dared to talk to them, after she undergone fat surgery she started talking to these same guys, what's funny that she ghosted me after that.

I'm pretty much friendly with everyone, I would engage a conversation with any girl (and even guys) regardless if I perceive them physically attractive or not - I've realized that not so many guys do that - I think this is where those heavy girls get the idea that they may have a shot with me.


So yeah, guys, if you are so desperate for a relationship, aim much lower in the looks department than what you were aiming at before.

Seems like the basic-principle for a guy getting with almost woman is that he has to somehow convince her that he's "above her"(i.e. more cool than she is) in some form or another. The more attractive the woman is, the harder it's going to be to convince her of that obviously.

The PUA concept that sometimes gets discussed on here is just a more concentrated version of this, which usually involves a bit of acting/deception most of the time. I also have a hunch that it's mainly aimed at not-so-good-looking guys that are trying to compensate for it.

Hypergamy, even in looks.

Yes, this is the general trend, but it has exceptions. I've had a much younger girl that was clearly out of my "league" show interest for me, and even have her pretty friends help in making contact. OTOH, this was a neurodiverse girl, not a typical one. I think neuro-compatibility can break this scheme, and it is really only natural for NTs to behave in this way.

This can also be seen in the curves where 10% of the most attractive women will still answer the least attractive men.

you're only considering one piece of a high standard pie. I don't even get interest from fat obese women.

Problem is there's a minimum attractiveness bar. If you're below it, your expectations don't matter at all.

Beuaty is in the eye of the beholder

That's because you are overweight yourself.

And then he usually pretends like overweight people are almost nonexistent in his area.

It really isn't. People tend to agree on what is beautiful and what is not. What instead happens is that people adapt their standards to their own looks and then lie about the beauty of their partners.

There can also be a blatantly ugly person, but you can't actually "prove" that they're ugly. Therefore, it's easy for somebody else to argue that they aren't ugly in the first, if it suits their purpose.

No, it is not:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6 ... faces.html

Now I know why babies can't stop looking at me.

If you look like broccoli, you'll be able to get chicks left and right!

Brussel Sprouts: not so much.

fo sho

Which means they are looking for something special other than looks. Rather than trying to make yourself "normal" You may have better luck being good at something. Keep trying or learning new stuff until you find something that works for you.