Is this why some people find us creepy?

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02 Sep 2015, 3:54 pm



What are your thoughts on this video?



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02 Sep 2015, 4:03 pm

There have been a few threads speculating about the Uncanny Valley effect here before. This one for instance: viewtopic.php?t=38719



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02 Sep 2015, 4:27 pm

Because many of us express our emotions differently, we may cause other people to go into the Uncanny Valley. Hence why why some people treat us like crap, etc.



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02 Sep 2015, 5:04 pm

Elensar wrote:


What are your thoughts on this video?



It's usually NTs that creep me out.
They're often like zombies being controlled by mind viruses.
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02 Sep 2015, 5:36 pm

olympiadis wrote:
Elensar wrote:


What are your thoughts on this video?



It's usually NTs that creep me out.
They're often like zombies being controlled by mind viruses.
:skull:


I find how they can shut out a logical point (often with aggression) especially creepy. Its why I am reluctant to make eye contact with them. I just dont know what is coming next and usually it is something unpleasant.



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02 Sep 2015, 6:04 pm

This theory actually makes a lot of sense to me.


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02 Sep 2015, 9:04 pm

I don't think it's the uncanny valley that makes some people find autistic people creepy.
I think it's that they can't read autistic people, feels uneasy about that, finds the other person creepy or unpredictable, and sometimes attributes to the other person being a creeper and wrong when the problem is in their mind.


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02 Sep 2015, 10:30 pm

They can't read us, except when they can. People used to say I had a great poker face. It made it so much easier to lie. A while ago I decided to start using facial expressions and eventually learned them through intuition alone.


But now it's much harder for me to lie or even withhold the truth. Since my face works by intuition it betrays me before I have a chance to stop it. I've gained expression but lost my poker face.


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03 Sep 2015, 1:45 am

I was rather struck by the fact that I don't find most of what is listed there as inherently creepy/scary to be so at all - teddy bears with teeth, snakes, heights, failing tests, injuries/deaths of other people (and yes I know that sounds awful) the future, being alone, gangs, failing tests, making mistakes, masks, singing androids, smiling wolves, even stuff like terrorist attacks or wars - if it's going to happen, it's going to happen, I don't stress out about being afraid of it. And the weird potential of what you may or may not do is just interesting. Everything you own being replaced with an exact copy? If it was exact how would you know to be scared in the first place? I'd just consider that a bit weird and try to figure out what happened.
If I'm not the only one not scared by traditionally scary things, things you're supposed to be scared by, then maybe autistic people are creepy because we're "other." Different, not part of what people accept, except, or understand. Outside. Maybe it's that simple.


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03 Sep 2015, 2:38 am

C2V wrote:
I was rather struck by the fact that I don't find most of what is listed there as inherently creepy/scary to be so at all - teddy bears with teeth, snakes, heights, failing tests, injuries/deaths of other people (and yes I know that sounds awful) the future, being alone, gangs, failing tests, making mistakes, masks, singing androids, smiling wolves, even stuff like terrorist attacks or wars - if it's going to happen, it's going to happen, I don't stress out about being afraid of it. And the weird potential of what you may or may not do is just interesting. Everything you own being replaced with an exact copy? If it was exact how would you know to be scared in the first place? I'd just consider that a bit weird and try to figure out what happened.

The same for me, i am barely affected by the "uncanny valley", and many "scary" things just aren't.

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If I'm not the only one not scared by traditionally scary things, things you're supposed to be scared by, then maybe autistic people are creepy because we're "other." Different, not part of what people accept, except, or understand. Outside. Maybe it's that simple.

Nail on the head: NTs instictively notice that we are different, due to the way we act or respond to outside stimulus, which is what scares them, if we respond atypically to this stimulus, there is no telling how we'd respond to something else (or so their intuition tells them)



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03 Sep 2015, 4:29 am

I LOVE that video! It's so fascinating to me. I've watched it so many times. It's the way he says things, his voice tone and expressions, that makes the video even more creepy. There are creepy images in this video, especially the one of some dummy woman with a tall neck and grinning, sitting in a garden on a sunny day. I mean, if I was walking along somewhere lonely but pretty, and I came across that sitting among the bushes staring like that, it would scare the s**t out of me.

I often have watched this video on my own at night in the dark, and it gives me the creeps each time. And there's a really creepy face right at the end of the video before it stops, what nearly gave me a heart attack. It looks like Michael Jackson, but I might be wrong. You have to look carefully, as it's a faded image.

Love this video. I don't understand how some people here aren't scared of anything mentioned in it.


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03 Sep 2015, 4:58 am

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I don't understand how some people here aren't scared of anything mentioned in it.


Other than the man eating cat shown early on (and even that is just a picture), what's scary in it?

Irrational stuff is just that. It ain't real.



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03 Sep 2015, 5:09 am

I just love watching vsauce.

IMO there's some truth to your theory.



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03 Sep 2015, 5:15 am

Very interesting video!
A couple of people have been creeped out by me because I was not saying much or being involved.
How about you guys?



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03 Sep 2015, 12:28 pm

Interesting ideas but my personal belief is that typical people don't know know how to feel when it comes to things they can't relate to, just the same as ultimate can't relate to most "normal" people and find THEM creepy/jarring. It doesn't help that they can't read us, and all their preconceived notions based on personal experience and psychology just doesn't apply. They don't know where they stand with us. I find AS people VERY easy to read personally and find the normies impossible, because they typically conceal their true feelings and intentions behind social politics. It's like trying to find order in chaos.



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03 Sep 2015, 12:35 pm

Dillogic wrote:
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I don't understand how some people here aren't scared of anything mentioned in it.


Other than the man eating cat shown early on (and even that is just a picture), what's scary in it?

Irrational stuff is just that. It ain't real.


I already explained why the stuff in the video is scary. It's the way the man explains about them, and also the slight music in the background, and he uses good expressions like tone of voice, which gives off an eerie sort of vibe as you watch the video. If these were just a compilation of pictures through some video clip, without no voice or some person presenting the video of the creepy examples, then maybe it might not have been so scary.

It's really cool stuff, but creepy. When I watch the video, my imagination becomes active, and I imagine myself coming across these creepy things when alone. I showed this video to my mum and my brother, and they both said that the things in the video are creepy. My brother's 28 and almost nothing scares him, and he wasn't scared by anything in the video, but he still said he can imagine how it would be scary to some people.

And yes it is irrational. But I'm not the sort to say ''oh, it's just a picture, so it's not scary'', or, ''terrorist attacks are not scary, if it happens it happens''. I don't look at things that way. If I did, I would be a very emotionless person. And I am far from emotionless.


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