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hyperion
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03 Apr 2007, 5:57 pm

What is your iq?



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03 Apr 2007, 6:04 pm

I don't really 'believe' in IQ tests that much.. I think they just give a measure of something very, very specific which doesn't neccesarily relate to what people normally understand as the word intelligence to mean.

I mean Richard Feynman reputedly scored 120 which is just over one standard deviation above average yet many would have considered him to have been one of the most intelligent men of his day.



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03 Apr 2007, 6:08 pm

YIKES! Rather than making everyone look arrogant, etc... Just search back in the previous posts! This has been done to death!

Most ranged from about 130-160. Some claim even HIGHER!

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03 Apr 2007, 6:11 pm

i took a test 2 a y3ars ago and dude said my i.q was 302. no big deal, tho, i don't believe in iq tests anyway


j/k, lol



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03 Apr 2007, 6:34 pm

The other reason I don't like IQ tests is that I can't see that they really serve much of a purpose; I mean if the purpose is so that we are able to organise the correct special education for exceptionally talented or struggling children then it is far more pragmatic that their teachers who observe them all the time make the recommendations for further specialist education. After all, the teacher has to make some sort of judgement in the first place to send the child for testing.

With regards to the online IQ tests, they are mostly only accurate for IQs within two standard deviations (upto circa 130). Testing to give scores above that level is a fairly specialised area.



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03 Apr 2007, 6:44 pm

I took a test back when I was sixteen and got 132. Apparently that meant I was smarter than a university graduate. And my mom claims to be 147, although I don't know the definition for that.



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03 Apr 2007, 6:55 pm

Lightning88 wrote:
I took a test back when I was sixteen and got 132. Apparently that meant I was smarter than a university graduate. And my mom claims to be 147, although I don't know the definition for that.


Well, it means she is leagues ahead of Richard Feynman, the Nobel prize winning physicist who was considered by his peers to be one of the most intelligent men of the twentieth century and was also a fairly quick mental calculator.



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03 Apr 2007, 6:59 pm

JakeG wrote:
Lightning88 wrote:
I took a test back when I was sixteen and got 132. Apparently that meant I was smarter than a university graduate. And my mom claims to be 147, although I don't know the definition for that.


Well, it means she is leagues ahead of Richard Feynman, the Nobel prize winning physicist who was considered by his peers to be one of the most intelligent men of the twentieth century and was also a fairly quick mental calculator.

Uh... She's a really smart CPA and mall manager and can figure out intensely hard math equations really quickly. I just hate it when she gets on my case when I complain about how hard math is (it's my worst subject) just because it's no problem to her and that's how she thinks it should be for everyone.



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03 Apr 2007, 7:01 pm

JakeG wrote:
The other reason I don't like IQ tests is that I can't see that they really serve much of a purpose; I mean if the purpose is so that we are able to organise the correct special education for exceptionally talented or struggling children then it is far more pragmatic that their teachers who observe them all the time make the recommendations for further specialist education. After all, the teacher has to make some sort of judgement in the first place to send the child for testing.

With regards to the online IQ tests, they are mostly only accurate for IQs within two standard deviations (upto circa 130). Testing to give scores above that level is a fairly specialised area.


Do you know anything about how to get a more specialized test? My standardized IQ score is 144 but I think I spot errors or limitations on the tests I've taken.

I enjoy taking tests. I'm not sure that I would consider joining MENSA or anything except perhaps for a year as a biographical note.

I've taken enough time finishing college, I'd really enjoy the chance to pepper my biography/resume with something impressive even if it is effectively meaningless in a pragmatic sense.

In a real sense, it IS just a number, formulated from a limited ink and paper test riddled with cultural bias. But I like these tests because they seem to be one of those few times when cultural bias favors me.



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03 Apr 2007, 7:07 pm

I don't feel that those tests are very accurate.



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03 Apr 2007, 7:16 pm

Lightning88 wrote:
JakeG wrote:
Lightning88 wrote:
I took a test back when I was sixteen and got 132. Apparently that meant I was smarter than a university graduate. And my mom claims to be 147, although I don't know the definition for that.


Well, it means she is leagues ahead of Richard Feynman, the Nobel prize winning physicist who was considered by his peers to be one of the most intelligent men of the twentieth century and was also a fairly quick mental calculator.

Uh... She's a really smart CPA and mall manager and can figure out intensely hard math equations really quickly. I just hate it when she gets on my case when I complain about how hard math is (it's my worst subject) just because it's no problem to her and that's how she thinks it should be for everyone.


132 at 16 is supposed to be as smart as the average 21 year old. People 1-24 have milestones they can be expected to hit. I can't see older people as being so easy to gauge.

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03 Apr 2007, 7:21 pm

So many of these topics, I mean, I am amazed you haven't stumbled across the other 2-3 topics on IQ. Mine tested in the 140s at age 9 and last check was 155 but that was the MENSA home test.


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03 Apr 2007, 7:27 pm

I scored 160, and another time I scored 170.

To be honest, I really despise these tests, and there is a lot of suspicion about them from a psychological and scientific view point, since it really only tests your visualization, memory, and general verbal and mathematical skills. They do not take into account a whole bunch of other factors, such as cultural and emotional and age.



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03 Apr 2007, 7:30 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
I don't feel that those tests are very accurate.


My issue isn't even with the accuracy - it is more to do with WHAT they actually test for.

In my opinion, judging someones intelligence by their IQ is like rating a painter based on how many smiley faces they can doodle in 60 seconds.



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03 Apr 2007, 7:37 pm

MolotovCocktail wrote:
I scored 160, and another time I scored 170.

To be honest, I really despise these tests, and there is a lot of suspicion about them from a psychological and scientific view point, since it really only tests your visualization, memory, and general verbal and mathematical skills. They do not take into account a whole bunch of other factors, such as cultural and emotional and age.


My italics.

I have never heard of an IQ test that tests anything like what a mathematician would call mathematical skills. They normally just test petty mental arithmetic which pretty much boils down to speed and short term memory. The correlation between skill at mental arithmetic and mathematics is pretty weak - in fact some of the greatest mathematicians in history were actually well known to be particularly BAD at mental arithmetic.

Even the pattern spotting tests in these things are usually ridiculously awful. They are notorious for using ambiguous questions such as what is the next number in the sequence:

3,5,7,...

where the answer could be several sensible things e.g. 9 (next odd number) or 11 (next prime) but in fact it could just as well be any number you choose it to be.