What do you think about abortion

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I know this is a difficult subject, recently I came across some interesting and very sad at the same time article, it has been a few years but it is very interesting.

http://pjsaunders.blogspot.com/2011/11/ ... ctive.html

It is about a woman from Australia who got twin pregnancy, after it turned out that one of the fetuses suffering from a severe congenital heart defect, this woman decided then to make selective abortions and remove damaged fetus, however, leaving the healthy.
Before the surgery, they did an ultrasound to determine where is the fetus, unfortunately before the surgery fetuses swapped places and surgeons murdered, not the kid what they wanted to.

Then when they realized that they did such a tragic mistake, this woman has done second abortion and removed the damaged fetus too.

I wonder why she did not give birth, Maybe it was a sign from God that he does not like the eugenic nonsense, and not people will decide who can live and who should die

Why did God make a damaged fetus? Look, God doesn't enter into it, this was a tragic mistake, one that could possible be prevented by better technology or practices. Also, don't use the term murder, this wasn't a murder.

Sign from God? Doubtful.

This was an exercise in the woman's freedom of reproductive choice, nothing more.

While I am pro-life myself (except in the cases of the mothers health, rape and incest), I ultimately believe it is the woman's choice.

Around 20% of zygotes fail to implant and are sloughed out with the monthly visitor for no fault of the woman and without her having any way of knowing that she was carrying one.

So i don't buy the faith-based "life begins at conception" argument. If it's God's will, then God is killing 1 in 5 right off the bat.

And there are of course any number of ways she could miscarry, and many of them even if she does everything right.

Carrying to term, even if the baby is whisked away at the delivery room never to be seen again, has a large, permanent physiological impact on the mother.

I don't want to explain everything i think about it. Basically I have come to the conclusion that hardly anybody makes the decision lightly, and that women have that choice whether or not we want them to. So it should be legal and safe.

The main complaint from most people is about late term abortion which also seems to me like a horrible thing to do. For this reason, I favor making things like contraception or morning after pills easily available as well as early term abortion.

Ideally, I would prefer there was no need to even consider abortions, but it's not a perfect world and for the near future people will wind up having to make this choice.

See, having a problem with late-term abortion in particular and abortion in general is an excellent reason to support Planned Parenthood.

education and contraception services are a big part of what they do. And abortion is a very small part.

Is it horrible to say I honestly don't care? I've thought about this before, and wondered about people's strong opinions on the subject, whereas I seem poised precisely on the fence, able to see the arguments for both sides.
All I can come up with is I cannot make a blanket yes or no opinion on this, because circumstances for it may be so wildly varying. It depends on the circumstances. Probably because it's easy for me, I can't have children so the topic is never likely to come into my experience.

As a blanket statement: i am in favour of the option being available.

I do not support all reasons to abort a feutus though, but it is ultimately the (pregnant) womans' choice, which i respect.

The situation listed by the OP is a terrible one, perhaps preventable, but no reason to suddenly ban abortions.

I am a man. This alone disqualifies me from making a case for or against abortion.

It's a woman's choice, not mine.

It is true that we men should not comment on that.
But despite everything I always was, am, and will be against eugenic abortions.


After all, we all or most members of this forum, including myself, suffers from Asperger Syndrome.

The condition can be considered a genetic defect, and now think that some stupid conceited doctor recommends your parents that abortion is the best solution that they can always beget healthy neuro-typical kid

I talked to my friends about this article, I postulated that this woman, after what had happened, she could give birth to a sick kid to have at least one child.
But my friend said, "That which she would then have to tell this sick child, you know we wanted to have an aborted you, but because a stupid medical mistake we have removed him instead of you"
My friend argued that would be deeply disturbing for mother and the kid who survived. And what do you think?

I think its a personal medical decision, and I get sick of the anti-abortion rehetoric that instigates violence as well.

I am so glad now I'll have to watch my back if I go to any shopping centers with a planned parenthood clinic because of extremists like f*** face in Colorado Springs.

Yeah murder is incorrect, people really need to read the dictionary sometimes.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/murder?s=t

Murder:
the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder) and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder)

Sounds like the abortion that far along was allowed because there was little chance it would survive...and if it did it wouldn't have lived more than a few years, and die a painful death. And medical accidents can happen, that isn't considered 'murder' either way if there was any negligence legal action can be taken since someone screwed up somewhere along the line.

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Late term abortions are only supposed to happen in medical emergencies at least in the U.S...its not common practice at all.

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Wow that article is full of BS one of the links, criticizes girls under the age of 15 having abortions....and other sections of the page are just christian propaganda. One even blames economic problems on "America rejecting god" how dumb.

disgusting article, OP article links to

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Saying it's a women's choice is a position on abortion rights.