WAS HITLER AUTISTIC?

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ilikebeer
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21 Apr 2007, 12:21 am

what do you think?

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21 Apr 2007, 12:25 am

NO!

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21 Apr 2007, 12:56 am

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21 Apr 2007, 12:57 am

who cares?

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21 Apr 2007, 12:58 am

Sigh. It's contagious.
See my rant: http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... ic&t=30696

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21 Apr 2007, 1:30 am

http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/donovan/hitler/

Old WII profile of him.

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Murray pegged Hitler's personality as "counteractive narcism," a type that is stimulated by real or imagined insult or injury. According to Dr. Murray, the characteristics of this personality type include: holding grudges, low tolerance for criticism, excessive demands for attention, inability to express gratitude, a tendency to belittle, bully, and blame others, revenge, persistence in the face of defeat, self-will, self-trust, inability to take a joke, and compulsive criminality. Dr. Murray concluded that Hitler had these characteristics (and others) to an extreme degree but lacked the offsetting qualities that round out a balanced personality.

In modern terms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissist ... y_disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial ... y_disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_p ... y_disorder

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... ic&t=25835

The above thread suggest narcissistic personality disorder is less likely in autism spectrum.

So no Hitler was not on the autism spectrum.

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21 Apr 2007, 3:27 am

COME ON! WHO would ask such a thing? Hitler did not do ANYTHING autistic. He almost LOVED being around people. He apparently wasn't shy or acting like it. He acted enough like a leader that the NAZIs were OK with having him as their leader. They even openly called him such! "Der Fuerer"="The leader". So he flunks the basic demeaner and socological components. As for stimming? The shaking hand was parkinsons. The action is RARE with autistic people, but THE tell tale sign with parkinsons. He was also STUPID! Hilter was probably the MOST responsible person for the defeat of Germany in WWII!

So WHAT argument can you have for him being autistic?

Hitler was just a stupid, angry, arrogant person that was angry at a particular group, and found a lot of support in the lower class during one of the worst depressions in history.

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21 Apr 2007, 3:29 am

I hate to be blunt, but this is the stupidest thread ever made!! ! :roll:

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21 Apr 2007, 3:37 am

TheMachine1 wrote:

So no Hitler was not on the autism spectrum.

Other than point seven of the criteria, I fit this to a tee.

SteveK wrote:

He almost LOVED being around people.

Never really got that impression. Then again though, it would be
hard to be a leader of his ilk, and enjoy just 'hangin with the boyz'
What enjoyment he got was I suspect that of the showman.

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21 Apr 2007, 4:08 am

poopylungstuffing wrote:

who cares?

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21 Apr 2007, 4:09 am

calandale wrote:

TheMachine1 wrote:

So no Hitler was not on the autism spectrum.

Other than point seven of the criteria, I fit this to a tee.

SteveK wrote:

He almost LOVED being around people.

Never really got that impression. Then again though, it would be
hard to be a leader of his ilk, and enjoy just 'hangin with the boyz'
What enjoyment he got was I suspect that of the showman.

You're right. He didn't love people, he just loved being around them. He had parties, etc...

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21 Apr 2007, 4:24 am

I'm just saying that there's a big difference between
enjoying putting on a performance - being the absolute
center of attention, and actually dealing with people
in a normal manner.

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21 Apr 2007, 4:29 am

calandale wrote:

I'm just saying that there's a big difference between
enjoying putting on a performance - being the absolute
center of attention, and actually dealing with people
in a normal manner.

But hitler was a megalomaniac, and not afraid of showing it. If it LOOKED like he liked being around people, he did like it.

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21 Apr 2007, 4:38 am

You don't have to like people to be around people. If that were true sociopaths would be harmless.

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21 Apr 2007, 4:52 am

My guess would be that he was a sociopath, and quite possibly bipolar (not that bipolar's necessarily bad, but some real jerks are/have been). I haven't made a study of the abominable man, but I don't see anything indicating Asperger's. The others, yes.

I wonder, too, did you have any particular reason for bringing this up? Like characteristics of his you thought were Aspie-like?

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21 Apr 2007, 5:24 am

I think it might have be sarcastic because I was mentioning Hilter in the VT post

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