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Sopho
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05 May 2007, 9:53 am

It is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
:?:
What the diddly does that mean?
And is it a load of bollocks?



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05 May 2007, 10:01 am

It’s said by people who’ve never loved at all: how can you live if the biggest part of you dies? This is Daniel talking though....

It could be interpreted that it’s better to strive for a balanced life, to feel sadness as well as happiness in equal amounts; rather than just one or the other….



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05 May 2007, 10:04 am

well, my interpretation is that the pain of loving someone and losing them is better than not discovering the joy of loving someone.

textbook interpretation.

I personally wish that I had never met the person that i loved the most.



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05 May 2007, 10:11 am

Eclair wrote:
I personally wish that I had never met the person that i loved the most.


That’s what everyone says. :wink: Though in the mind of Daniel, the statement would have never of come to fruition due to the originator immediately killing itself due to the pain of losing love…I’m quite mad though, so don't listen to me. :wink:



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05 May 2007, 10:16 am

People who have lost stop moaning? :?



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05 May 2007, 10:19 am

So which of these two people would it be said to?
Ivan: has just got divorced and keeps moaning about it all the time
Vladimir: refuses to have a relationship with anyone because he fears it will end



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05 May 2007, 10:25 am

0_equals_true wrote:
People who have lost stop moaning? :?


I'm sure Kosmonaut will know the true meaning behind this...uh, what is this thing ("to live, love and lose") called again? He'll find this thread eventually.... He's an expert at this stuff.

Sopho,

It's said to Vlad.



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05 May 2007, 10:26 am

Good question it could be Ivan. But nothing is going to stop him moaning anyway. I think it is really a warning to Vladimir.



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05 May 2007, 11:19 am

ok, I have had more than my share of loves of my life and if I know my chemical make up, I will probably have more.

The deal is it is a 'high' when you are in love and the deal is it is like withdrawing from that high when you don't have that which you love to fixate on anymore. So you fixate on the not having . . .and it is the same fixation, if you follow me, just one is euphoric and the other one is depressive and painful. . really, really painful.

but it is the same and it is called 'a feeling' it is such a strong feeling that even ASPIES/AUTIES feel it. And that is strong!

so. . . the point of the axiom is that it is better to be human enough to have the problem of feeling love than being too dense and sensless to NOT feel it.

personally, I could have done very well with out it.
but your milage may vary.

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05 May 2007, 11:19 am

I believe I understand this. I am not sure if it is correct though.



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05 May 2007, 1:31 pm

It's one of the most human experiences.
It's better to have experienced it and have it end badly then never to experience it at all.



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05 May 2007, 2:51 pm

Although I concur with others as to the meaning of the statement - that it is better to have had the feeling of love and having lost your love - I'm not really sure how appropriate the statement is to AS-style relationships.

My own experience has been that in the few relationships I have had the stresses and strains of loving have been sufficient to drive me towards breakdown on each occassion - where the breakdown seems to induce the end of the relationship. It's probably a self-protection thing ...



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05 May 2007, 2:57 pm

It could be unrequited love. If you don't care about anybody else you are worse than someone who does...according to the phase.

But yes it is a load of bollocks. If you really were that uncaring, you wouldn't care about a phase like that.



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05 May 2007, 3:13 pm

Sopho wrote:
It is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
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What the diddly does that mean?
And is it a load of bollocks?


I'm reminded of Agent K in Men In Black here (who is seen by Agent J while he is watching the love of his life, whom he can never see again because of his duties with the MIB). When confronted with this phrase, his response is simple: "Try it."

:?

In any case, I think the gist of it is this: to have known love and shared it with somebody else who loves you back is better than to have lived your life without loving anyone ever. Given my current situation, though, I think the latter is a far more attractive option...


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05 May 2007, 3:24 pm

I have loved several very deeply, and lost them in deeply painful ways. I am very badly affected when things end with someone I love, and to begin I have always been very bitter, vowing never to fall in love again and to not allow anyone close again... but with hindsight, from every relationship I have had, I have learnt something useful and discovered parts of myself I didn't know existed.

It is said that each person we meet acts as a mirror to us, showing parts of ourselves that we may not have acknowledged yet... I believe this is very true. Each person brings out different things in ourselves. I have special memories as well as appalling ones from all my relationships and with each person who comes to love me, I get closer to being able to deal with my demons and fully embrace myself.

I think this is true of anyone with issues.



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05 May 2007, 5:06 pm

Sopho wrote:
So which of these two people would it be said to?
Ivan: has just got divorced and keeps moaning about it all the time
Vladimir: refuses to have a relationship with anyone because he fears it will end


I guess it could be applied to both, because it can mean different things in different contexts, I guess.