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Cintakmarka
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03 Oct 2016, 7:09 pm

Can an Aspie be asexual and transgender?



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03 Oct 2016, 7:19 pm

Yes, definitely. Many members here are asexual and/or transgender.



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05 Oct 2016, 4:12 am

I'm Autistic, Trans and Ace :)


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05 Oct 2016, 5:20 am

The proportion of asexuals who are transgender is very high. There is certainly a strong positive correlation.



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07 Oct 2016, 12:15 am

I'm asexual too.



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07 Oct 2016, 12:15 am

I'm asexual too. :arrow:



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07 Oct 2016, 8:30 am

I'm genderqueer(not trans) and asexual.



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08 Oct 2016, 1:35 pm

What is "asexual"?

No sexual thoughts whatsoever?
No masturbation?
Do some folks just not get horny?
Nobody gets you aroused?
Non functioning equipment? (just confused here)

Or is it just no interest in sexual entanglements with others?
And it's more of a 'no romantic relationships' thing?

I don't get it.


I can understand the no interest in relationships part.
But I have a sex drive, plenty of things arouse me.
I'm just too noncommittal and hypersensitive to be romantically involved with anyone.

I call it "narssisexual".
I'm just interested in pleasuring myself when I have the urge.

Just when I hear "I'm asexual" that registers to me as "I have zero interest in anything sexual. I don't use my equipment."

Is that the case?



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08 Oct 2016, 2:20 pm

Asexuality is most often defined as a lack of sexual attraction. Asexuals can still masturbate, they just don't feel the desire to actually have sex with anyone.



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08 Oct 2016, 4:40 pm

I'm just curious.

I'm kinda like that.
I have a lack of desire to be with others.

But regardless of that, I can still appreciate who is sexy, on am erotic level, not just aesthetically.
Just without wanting to sleep with them.

Then you get all those emotional entanglements no matter how people want to keep it.
It's just the p.i.t.a about that stuff. Get intimate with someone, you are in for a world of complication beyond what you expected, almost always.

And then there's the behavior that I think, in me, may actually be an embarrassing autistic stim to talk about, rather than something sexual. A known reaction to anxiety. Humans and lab monkeys have a lot in common.



I don't even know how to flirt with anyone.
I am 100% clueless in that realm.

When I meet someone I like, I want to get to know them as a person before I even consider any sexual contact.
A lot of people may trigger response down there, but almost always, the rest of me is like "no thank you."
I see how people's lives get so messed up because of that kind of stuff. It's the root of drama.

I want to meet someone I can open up with and trust, that is extremely difficult to find in this world.

That's just me.

If that's 'asexual' then I'm 'asexual'.

Or maybe I'm just extremely careful romantically and sexually.
I grew up in an era of all kinds of scary horror stories about sex told to the children.
I was a teenager when the big AIDS thing hit, spooked me right into celibacy.

Then I spent years in 12 step programs watching people replace their addictions to booze and drugs with sex, taught me just how dysfunctional people can be.

The two sexual relationships I have had were not that great honestly.
I just wasn't so into it as she was, either of them. Looked like they were having more fun, I want to be on the other side of the action.

Then growing up the way I am has gotten me a lot of abuse.
I am not into doing anything with people who remind me of my abusers, most guys.
I was the 'sissy boy' getting picked on and beat up.

Still kind of upset about all that.



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08 Oct 2016, 11:26 pm

There is an ace trans woman who goes to the same trans support group as I do.


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09 Oct 2016, 12:23 am

It's not just possible, from what I understand aspies are something like twice as likely to identify as being anything other then cis and strait.

I personally am an aspie asexual and I have a friend who's both autistic and trans.


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09 Oct 2016, 3:42 am

Wait, if someone is asexual, they why would they even care what sex organs they have?

You'd think there be more people opting for eunic surgery rather than vaginoplasty.


I really don't think the word "asexual" does a sufficient job at really explaining what "asexual" is.
The word itself has failed to do it's job as a word.


How is aesxual even part of LGBT?
L, G, B & T all have to do with SEX.



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09 Oct 2016, 2:00 pm

pete413 wrote:
Wait, if someone is asexual, they why would they even care what sex organs they have?

You'd think there be more people opting for eunic surgery rather than vaginoplasty.

I really don't think the word "asexual" does a sufficient job at really explaining what "asexual" is.
The word itself has failed to do it's job as a word.

How is aesxual even part of LGBT?
L, G, B & T all have to do with SEX.



Asexuality is a sexual orientation, hence why it's part of the queer community. Last I heard LGBT is more like LGBTTQQIP2SAA, hence... I use queer now. And just because someone is asexual doesn't mean they don't like masturbating, etc. They just aren't sexually attracted to someone. Also genitals tend to be wired into the brain, it would be the same as cutting off an arm if you're not a transsexual. Exception for transsexuals because our brains are wired for different genitals, hence we don't like ours a lot of the time, with some exceptions.


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09 Oct 2016, 2:57 pm

pete413 wrote:
Wait, if someone is asexual, they why would they even care what sex organs they have?

Gender identity and sexual orientation are completely different things. Homosexuals are usually completely comfortable being the sex that they are even though transitioning would make things fit better, and at the same time trans people often transition despite the fact that they are transitioning into the sex that they are attracted to. Asexuality is a sexual orientation, not a gender identity, which is why is's common for people to not want sex and still be comfortable with their gender.

pete413 wrote:
How is aesxual even part of LGBT?
L, G, B & T all have to do with SEX.

Think of it this way. Imagine asking a bunch of people two questions:
Are you sexually attracted to the opposite sex?
Are you sexually attracted to the same sex?
There are four possible combinations of answers:
Yes/No: Heterosexual
Yes/Yes: Bisexual
No/Yes: Homosexual
No/No: Asexual
We are not heterosexual so we don't fit in there and most asexuals are interested in sexless but romantic relationships with other asexuals so being part of a community is helpful. If we are not accepted by the queer community or by the strait majority then what are we supposed to do?


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10 Oct 2016, 4:16 am

Cintakmarka wrote:
Can an Aspie be asexual and transgender?


Yes of course.