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Using this test, what type did you score as?
INFJ 14%  14%  [ 4 ]
INFP 21%  21%  [ 6 ]
INTJ 28%  28%  [ 8 ]
INTP 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
ENFJ 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
ENFP 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
ENTJ 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
ENTP 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
ESFJ 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
ESFP 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
ESTJ 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
ESTP 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
ISTJ 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
ISTP 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
ISFJ 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
ISFP 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 29

emw98
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11 Oct 2016, 5:12 pm

Hi everyone,

I am an MBTI fanatic and have been browsing through these forums for information about MBTI personality types. I'm curious if there is a correlation between MBTI type and being on the autism spectrum.

While I've found some threads on MBTI type, the tests that were being used were not well-designed tests, so many of the results that you got were probably inaccurate. There is MUCH more to MBTI theory than just the 4 letters, so if you use a test that is based off the 4 letters alone (which most of them are), your results will probably be inaccurate.

So...here is a link to an MBTI test that actually measures the cognitive FUNCTIONS, not just the 4 letters. I believe this particular test to be one of, if not the most, accurate one that can be found online for free:

http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm

^ This test will tell you what your most likely type is.

Feel free to post your results below as well, if you'd like.

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11 Oct 2016, 5:45 pm

Yet more labels. I think I'd give it a miss.


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11 Oct 2016, 8:21 pm

I literally finished reading an article about this 2 minutes ago.

"The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless"

" In summary, it appears that the MBTI does not conform to many of the basic standards expected of psychological tests. Many very specific predictions about the MBTI have not been confirmed or have been proved wrong. There is no obvious evidence that there are 16 unique categories in which all people can be placed. There is no evidence that scores generated by the MBTI reflect the stable and unchanging personality traits that are claimed to be measured. Finally, there is no evidence that the MBTI measures anything of value."
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-myers-briggs-personality-test-is-pretty-much-meaningless-9359770/
Sorry to be a party pooper :lol:



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11 Oct 2016, 9:51 pm

I think there is a strong correlation. Most very technical people are ISTJ/INTJ and many of those are also somewhere on the spectrum. I'm one such person. It will be interesting how this pans out.


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12 Oct 2016, 2:08 pm

I guess I'm ESFP :roll: ,

Lead (Dominant) Process
Extraverted Sensing (Se): Immersing in the present context. Responding naturally to everything tangible you detect through your senses. Checking with what your gut instincts say. Testing limits and take risks for big rewards.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Introverted Feeling (Fi): Staying true to who you really are. Paying close attention to your personal identity, values and beliefs. Checking with your conscience. Choosing behavior congruent with what is important to you.

I'm not autistic (as far as I know), but my son had ASD. I feel the above does apply to me, with the exception of "testing limits and taking risks for big rewards" - that's definitely a miss as I like to play it cautious with what's important to me, minimize any potential risk and I don't care about big rewards.

Overall though, I feel tests like this are without merit as how can one's personality (current or over a lifetime) be defined by 5 minutes of random, poorly phrased questions? So if I was given a differently phrased or new set of 48 questions would my personality be different? To me, who people are can't be summed up in this manner.


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12 Oct 2016, 2:36 pm

GenX wrote:
I think there is a strong correlation. Most very technical people are ISTJ/INTJ and many of those are also somewhere on the spectrum. I'm one such person. It will be interesting how this pans out.


How do you know that "Most very technical people are ISTJ/INTJ?" The vast majority of people on this planet, technically minded or otherwise, probably haven't even heard of the test let alone wasted their time taking it. Why do you need any test to tell you what your own personality is?


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12 Oct 2016, 2:46 pm

extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************************* (37.9)
excellent use
introverted Sensing (Si) ******************** (20.5)
limited use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ***************************** (29.9)
average use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************* (31.5)
good use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ***************************** (29.5)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) **************************************** (40.1)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ********************* (21.5)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.7)
average use

first result: ISTP
second: ESTP
third: INTP



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12 Oct 2016, 3:30 pm

extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************** (20)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) ****************************************** (42.5)
excellent use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************************** (44.5)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************** (20.2)
limited use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ******************************* (31.6)
good use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************************************** (46.6)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************ (24.1)
average use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ********* (9.9)
unused

ENTP, INTP or ESTJ.

I consider myself INTP with a touch of extroversion (I usually test about 50% on Introversion-Extroversion scale) so it isn't off.
I wonder why the first choice according to test is ENTP while my function order is Ti (46.6), Ne (44.5), Si (42.5), Te(31.6), Fe (24.1) which is very close to book example of INTP function set (Ti Ne Si Fe). ENTP function set is Ne Ti Fe Si. Maybe the difference between my Ti and Ne isn't big but my Si is definitely stronger than Fe. I wonder what made the test think I fit ENTP better?

ESTJ sounds interesting too. :lol:
My Te is way too low to be dominant function (ESTJ = Te Si Ne Fi). ISTJ(Si Te Fi Ne) would fit better but I lack Fi and my Ne is way too well developed to be an inferior function.
It wasn't this way some time ago (my Ne was underdeveloped due to Ti-Si loop http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/post/13309 ... temptation ) but it's back to norm now. Currently I use Ne as much as I did when I was a kid and teenager - before Si kicked in and made a mess with my mental health. It still has to fight the stupid Si though.



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12 Oct 2016, 4:09 pm

Jute wrote:
GenX wrote:
I think there is a strong correlation. Most very technical people are ISTJ/INTJ and many of those are also somewhere on the spectrum. I'm one such person. It will be interesting how this pans out.


How do you know that "Most very technical people are ISTJ/INTJ?" The vast majority of people on this planet, technically minded or otherwise, probably haven't even heard of the test let alone wasted their time taking it. Why do you need any test to tell you what your own personality is?


I work in a very technical workplace (maintenance - aerospace industry), have done for almost 30 yrs. Around 15 years ago an external contractor was brought in to provide a "bonding session" for the workplace. I think it was to help fix some of the interpersonal problems. The contractor had us all do a MBTI test. While we were doing the test the contractor was filling in a four by four grid on the back of the whiteboard that was in the front of the class. Once we'd completed our tests the whiteboard was turned around. It showed the contractors guesstimate distribution of the various personality types in the room. This whiteboard grid showed a distribution that had more than 50% of the total as INTJ/ISTJ, with about a 60/40 weighting towards ISTJ. The room of people (around 100) were floored when we did our tally which showed the contractors guess was within one or two people in nearly every box. Our staff compliment is around 50% technical and 50% admin/ancillary staff. Most of the technical staff had an INTJ/ISTJ type.

Knowing what I know now, they were probably testing the wrong thing. An aspie test may have proven even more valuable, though the results would likely have been more confronting for those involved. I never knew I was an aspie until recently, but I used to always joke that all engineers are borderline autistic. I think I actually get that now. I see very strong traits in many of my co workers, especially when they are under stress. My workplace has lots of communication problems, meltdowns, stimming, odd eye contact - primarily among the technically brilliant. It's a great place to be an aspie but probably not so much for those not on the spectrum. A "sheltered workshop" for engineers!

Sorry, we're not currently hiring.


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26 Oct 2016, 1:13 pm

GenX wrote:
I think there is a strong correlation. Most very technical people are ISTJ/INTJ and many of those are also somewhere on the spectrum. I'm one such person. It will be interesting how this pans out.


Yes, I completely agree. Interestingly, the people I've known who score as INTJ and ISTJ are also on the autism spectrum and are in engineering fields. That is not to say that every IXTJ is on the spectrum or is an engineer, of course...but they most commonly seem to score as INTJ, INTP or ISTJ. Surely that isn't just coincidence.

In my experience, there definitely seems to be a correlation between Jung's personality types and the behaviors that I've observed in real life, both within myself and from other people.

As a psychology student, I might be biased on this, but the personality types as defined by Jung really do seem to hold weight in the real world. Note that I am talking about Jung and the cognitive functions, NOT the tests that go solely off the 4 letters. The 4 letter tests alone tend to be highly inaccurate and the results can often change based off of how you feel. But if you study the actual Jungian functions, I believe that the theory proves to be accurate more often than not. Introverted intuition, which is the dominant function in the INTJ (and INFJ), is statistically very rare. So I was curious if it's actually more common among those of you here, as many ISTJs tend to mistype as INTJs when going off the 4 letter tests alone.

For the record, I am a neurotypical INFP and can relate to some of the traits of those on the spectrum. I think that's one of the reasons why I tend to be attracted to those who score as INTJ and ISTJ. We are very similar in some ways, and yet very different in others. For example, we both need lots of alone time and dislike large groups of people, small talk, and are easily overstimulated. I also admire their organization, responsibility, attention to detail, and ability to plan things far in advance, all of which are qualities I lack. :wink:

Anyway, thanks to everyone who has voted/commented so far.



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26 Oct 2016, 1:26 pm

bb400guy wrote:

Overall though, I feel tests like this are without merit as how can one's personality (current or over a lifetime) be defined by 5 minutes of random, poorly phrased questions? So if I was given a differently phrased or new set of 48 questions would my personality be different? To me, who people are can't be summed up in this manner.


I can see your point. In many cases, however, I think it's more about studying the functions and observing behavior to determine which personality type best fits a person. From my experience, I can get to know a person and observe them over time, and pretty accurately guess their "type" based off of a pattern of behavior. But as far as tests go, I do think this is one of the more accurate ones.

I realize that you can't put people into boxes and not everyone will fit their "type" 100%, but what I love about personality theory and especially this one in particular is that it provides a sort of framework to work with when it comes to better understanding one's self and others. And again, it's been proven to be pretty accurate in my experience!



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26 Oct 2016, 2:31 pm

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************** (26.6)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ****************************** (30.9)
good use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************* (21.2)
limited use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************* (32)
good use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ***************************************** (41.2)
excellent use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************************** (34.9)
good use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) **************** (16.7)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ************************************ (36.9)
excellent use
Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTJ

Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Intuiting (Ni): Transforming with a meta-perspective. Withdrawing from the world and focusing your mind to receive an insight or realization. Checking if synergy results. Trying out a realization to transform things.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Thinking (Te): Measuring and constructing for progress. Making decisions objectively based on evidence and measures. Checking if things function properly. Applying a procedure to control events and complete goals.

If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENTJ, or ISTJ

Although with regard to the "INTJ/ISTJ = spectrum-y" comment, definition-wise Ti seems to match our tendencies best. I'd imagine INTP is the most common type on the spectrum.


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26 Oct 2016, 3:25 pm

Oops, I voted INTJ on the poll. But I meant to put ISTJ.


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