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04 Feb 2017, 12:28 pm

My friend whom I've known for over 30 years says he's been to a number of places, both here in SoCal and elsewhere, where he swears up and down that he and sometimes others have seen ghosts or felt a "presence".

One place is an old church in East L.A. that was built on an the site of old ranch which was torn down sometime before the Depression, and he says the head priest who runs the church has seen the ghosts too and has gotten used to them over the years.

Another place is some big old family-owned house in Mexico, where my friend stayed for a visit. He says it's haunted by an annoying ghost of a small boy who barges in on people.

Well, last night I had an unusual dream in which I saw my old boss who died 8 years ago, nothing unusual there... but I let my friend stay overnight at my place in a guest room, and he says he felt the presence of an unidentified woman standing in the nearby hall with her arms folded, urging him to get ready for something or other. I pressed him to ID who the woman might have been, and he guessed maybe it was my mother. She died 9 years ago, my friend knows because he visited her on her deathbed.

I think the spectral woman my friend encountered was my great-grandmother, who lived in the house and was its landlady for over 40 years after her 2 sons had it built for her after WW2, though my mother lived in the house with her for some years too... but I stayed in the house plenty of times since my GGM died, then it passed to me after my mother died, andI swear up and down, I've never seen or heard a ghost, or felt a presence.

My friend is also on the autism spectrum, but his is milder than mine (his problem is mostly with OCD), but I'm thinking either he has some type of co-morbid boundary deficit disorder, or I'm just completely "aura-blind".

About 40 years ago, I stayed at a family friend's house in the High Desert, and the other guests swore they heard billiard balls clacking from inside the rec room when all of us were outdoors, but I didn't hear any billiard balls. The home's owner was a widow who'd shot himself a couple of years prior.

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04 Feb 2017, 12:42 pm

I think people want to believe in the supernatural and not give in to the notion that this is all there is, that when you die, that's it.

Over the years I've wondered why people visited churches, even the mega ones, and gave away their hard-earned money to ministers who obviously used their tithes on lavish gifts for themselves, and their congregation were well aware of the expenditures. The congregation really and truly want to believe there is more to this world than what is perceived, and by golly, if their minister wants to treat himself to new Cadillacs every year, that's okay because (they hope) their reward will be in Heaven.

Similarly, people want to believe grandma is looking out for them when they're in the shower or cooking dinner. Who wants to be alone? It's common knowledge that some old people, reaching as far in life as they think they possibly can, simply jump off bridges and promenades every day to end the agony of their miserable lonely lives.

This is it? There's no more to life? A lot of people beg to differ. There must be an afterlife - ghosts are indicative of that (they hope) - and they're headed there, come hell or high water.



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05 Feb 2017, 7:27 am

Sometimes I thought of it this way. I always wanted to see or feel ghosts, but nothing came.

From where I live, supernatural phenomenon is still believed. Even at the capital, it's still popular. I know plenty of people who had stories and encounters of their own.
Heck, even my neighbor saw my doppelganger, and some ghost that might resemble me, and I never get to see it nor feel it.

This is also who so many students who'd want to be accompanied by me. 4 out of 6 of schools I've been into, from elementary to college, are said to be haunted. I'm the only one who explores the school, solo. Only student who would go to a unlit washroom alone. Only student who cleans alone at late noon where the former morgue turned classrooms are. Etc. :roll: Sigh...


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05 Feb 2017, 7:29 am

My mother's side had VERY ASish tendencies and could communicate with the deaf for generations.


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05 Feb 2017, 12:19 pm

I don't believe in ghosts or supernatural beings in general. They don't exist except in stories and your imagination. And I'm kind of surprised whenever people on the spectrum say they do believe.



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07 Feb 2017, 1:18 pm

Why would AS stop a person from being able to see a ghost? Actually I saw a thread on WP once a long time ago that more people with AS have seen ghosts than those without AS. But you can't blame everything you can't do on AS.

I think I've encountered ghosts at work. I don't believe ghosts really choose to haunt, I just think that they can have a presence in certain places. Strangely, I have never felt the presence of a ghost in a graveyard, but when in an abandoned building I have.


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07 Feb 2017, 1:28 pm

I would suggest that you attend a Spiritualist Church a couple of times. People who also attend a Spiritualist Church are not going to invalidate your experiences and could answer alot of your questions.



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07 Feb 2017, 9:47 pm

Joe90 wrote:
Strangely, I have never felt the presence of a ghost in a graveyard, but when in an abandoned building I have.
That's not surprising, I think. Ghosts tend to haunt the places they either lived or died (and sometimes they can haunt people they attach to), so there wouldn't likely be many ghosts in a graveyard.


I have felt what I think was a lingering presence, and both my mother and I heard a beloved deceased at the same time, and my father claimed he saw my grandmother after she died.
I think there is life after death, and it's something I see as unrelated to any religion. It is what it is regardless of people's beliefs.

AS wouldn't make someone see or not see ghosts, same as being NT won't.


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09 Feb 2017, 9:33 am

I've just recently found out I've been experiencing all kinds of what's considered paranormal stuff my whole life without realizing it.



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09 Feb 2017, 10:22 am

People with all kinds of conditions of varying degrees have encountered the paranormal, I don't think there's anything that comes with autism that would block out the supernatural interacting with you. I think with most encounters it is a bit of random luck with components gelling together at the right moment and then the energy is drawn off the witness to 'power up' what they are visited by, at least in residual hauntings, intelligent hauntings work on a different set of rules I believe. Residual ghosts are stored in the material for various reasons, could be a battlefield acting as if it's cannon ball days again, a celebratory gathering of cheering and laughing and glasses clinking replaying or isolated incidents in quiet residences. In the solitary cases often it's because something colossally emotional transpired wherever they roam or they had a negative/positive relationship with the particular building or heck they just got absorbed into the place as they were there so long and imo that faded essence/husk of their soul is on a constant loop but whenever the right brew froths up and a human is present, they drain the energy off us somehow and also electronic devices seem to lend them energy to manifest visually, it would explain the cold and electrics going hectic. Nobody knows why ghosts manifest out of nowhere but the stone tape theory is intriguing. As for visitation ghosts and intelligent entities, they seem to come and go between the drapes as they please, don't know how much of the original person they retain or whether they are lingering energies drifting about.



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09 Feb 2017, 5:11 pm

I've never talked about this before, just kept quite about it.
My experiences are first noise then smell then sometimes visual.
The very distinctive thing is the noise was in stereo or in a 3D sound.
So I believe was the smell, meaning that if you were stood near to me
you would hear and smell slightly differently.
Visual very very rare but a 3D rounded image non the less.
The biggest point of this is each time it repeated exactly, in the same order
and on the same time scale.
One time I had a witness who confirmed the noise and smell happening without
any prompting!
The why, how, and because, I find fascinating.

OK I cant explain this phenomenon, but I just don't see it as the dead walking!
It was just like being in, or witnessing a repeated time warp event.
At first I imagined an in the future archaeologist, with a huge machine peering
back in time at a past event, and I just got caught up in the waves of time generated
by this great machine.
But now I no longer subscribe to this theory, to add some interest can you tell me why
I've had a change of mined! (just another AS trait)
Or alternatively can you suggest a brand new theory that will hold some water?
Listening to Hot Chocolate's greatest, so please excuse the relaxed way of composition.
Had an AS stressed out week so far, so just winding down.


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09 Mar 2017, 2:14 am

Maybe your friend has a more active imagination whereas your more logical


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