Arkansas’ new Ten Commandments monument at Capitol destroyed

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28 Jun 2017, 12:55 pm

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/arkansas-new-ten-commandments-monument-at-capitol-destroyed/

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A man yelled “Freedom!” as he crashed his vehicle into Arkansas’ new Ten Commandments monument early Wednesday, nearly three years after he was arrested in the destruction of Oklahoma’s monument at its state Capitol, authorities said.
The privately funded Arkansas monument had been in place outside the state Capitol in Little Rock for less than 24 hours before it was knocked from its plinth and smashed to pieces.
Michael Tate Reed, 32, of Van Buren, Arkansas, was booked in the Pulaski County jail shortly after 7:30 a.m. on preliminary charges of defacing objects of public interest, criminal trespass and first-degree criminal mischief. An arrest report lists his occupation as “unemployed/disabled.”

Arkansas Secretary of State’s Office spokesman Chris Powell said officials believe a Facebook Live video posted on a Michael Reed’s Facebook account that depicted the destruction is authentic.
In the video, the sky is dark and the Arkansas Capitol’s dome is visible. Music is heard followed by a female voice, likely on the radio, saying, “Where do you go when you’re faced with adversity and trials and challenges?” The driver is then heard growling, “Oh my goodness. Freedom!” before accelerating into the monument. The vehicle’s speedometer is last shown at 21 mph (33 kph) and then a collision can be heard.
Arkansas’ monument fell from its plinth and broke into multiple pieces as it hit the ground. The debris had been cleaned up by midmorning Wednesday.


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28 Jun 2017, 1:10 pm

Moses did the same thing,but without a car.


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29 Jun 2017, 12:19 am

Misslizard wrote:
Moses did the same thing,but without a car.


That he did. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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29 Jun 2017, 10:42 am

There's one which looks just like that that one did in my town that's in front of what used to be city hall but is now the police station. I think it should be removed and put somewhere around a big old church that's nearby.

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Moses did the same thing,but without a car.


That he did. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Moses was the wickedest man in the bible... because he broke all ten commandments at once! hee hee.



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29 Jun 2017, 12:31 pm

:lol: :lol:


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29 Jun 2017, 4:00 pm

never thought of that before.Indeed.

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30 Jun 2017, 8:02 pm

The leftists break all of their own commandments, but without the cloud of glory.



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01 Jul 2017, 2:52 am

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The leftists break all of their own commandments, but without the cloud of glory.


And how is that?


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01 Jul 2017, 2:56 am

What does that mean, Mr McGuffins? :?


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01 Jul 2017, 7:19 pm

... by a Christian Trump supporter

https://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/a ... nt-wrecker

The Arkansas Times took a look at his social media, and found his philosophical leanings interesting.

The monument's legislative backer, who raised private funds to erect the monument and will leave taxpayers on the hook for the lawyers to defend it in court, wanted to blame Muslims but had to settle for blaming Satanists, the ACLU, and others who have no conceivable connection to the event.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2017 ... s-arkansas


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01 Jul 2017, 7:54 pm

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... by a Christian Trump supporter

https://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/a ... nt-wrecker

The Arkansas Times took a look at his social media, and found his philosophical leanings interesting.

The monument's legislative backer, who raised private funds to erect the monument and will leave taxpayers on the hook for the lawyers to defend it in court, wanted to blame Muslims but had to settle for blaming Satanists, the ACLU, and others who have no conceivable connection to the event.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2017 ... s-arkansas


A right wing evangelical nutbar! Who'd have thought?


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02 Jul 2017, 7:51 am

friedmacguffins wrote:
The leftists break all of their own commandments, but without the cloud of glory.


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And how is that?


Shall we start with free speech?

The colleges used to discuss myth, and scientific advances, contemporaneously. It was like a wet lab, where you were allowed to test a theory -- not a coercive market control, in which you had to accept indoctrination, as a precondition for employment. Classical leftism used to be the alternative to petty tyranny, not a speech control, to break religious curios. Christianity should seem no more offensive to a leftist, than some pagan artifact, from any of the other cultures. The 10 Commandments should look no worse than the Round Table or Hammurabi's code, all things being equal. Historical communists, if you have ever read any, used Biblical figures of speech, no differently than pop culture making reference to Shakespeare.

To me, a useful part of moral reprobation is that it doesn't judge. That means, pragmatism, traditionalism, and conservatism are allowed. Tolerance has to tolerate. What really happens, when you're not bubble trapped, is a Hal Lindsey type of guy can talk to colleges, just as well as any cult member, and noone is burning the place down.

You were once against the use of force, right?



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02 Jul 2017, 10:11 am

friedmacguffins wrote:
friedmacguffins wrote:
The leftists break all of their own commandments, but without the cloud of glory.


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And how is that?


Shall we start with free speech?

The colleges used to discuss myth, and scientific advances, contemporaneously. It was like a wet lab, where you were allowed to test a theory -- not a coercive market control, in which you had to accept indoctrination, as a precondition for employment. Classical leftism used to be the alternative to petty tyranny, not a speech control, to break religious curios. Christianity should seem no more offensive to a leftist, than some pagan artifact, from any of the other cultures. The 10 Commandments should look no worse than the Round Table or Hammurabi's code, all things being equal. Historical communists, if you have ever read any, used Biblical figures of speech, no differently than pop culture making reference to Shakespeare.

To me, a useful part of moral reprobation is that it doesn't judge. That means, pragmatism, traditionalism, and conservatism are allowed. Tolerance has to tolerate. What really happens, when you're not bubble trapped, is a Hal Lindsey type of guy can talk to colleges, just as well as any cult member, and noone is burning the place down.

You were once against the use of force, right?

The use of violence must always be opposed, even if the left does it.
Sure, there have been people in academia who have betrayed the liberal value of tolerance - Bill Maher is among the first to call them out.


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02 Jul 2017, 10:25 am

friedmacguffins wrote:
friedmacguffins wrote:
The leftists break all of their own commandments, but without the cloud of glory.


Kraichgauer wrote:
And how is that?


Shall we start with free speech?

The colleges used to discuss myth, and scientific advances, contemporaneously. It was like a wet lab, where you were allowed to test a theory -- not a coercive market control, in which you had to accept indoctrination, as a precondition for employment. Classical leftism used to be the alternative to petty tyranny, not a speech control, to break religious curios. Christianity should seem no more offensive to a leftist, than some pagan artifact, from any of the other cultures. The 10 Commandments should look no worse than the Round Table or Hammurabi's code, all things being equal. Historical communists, if you have ever read any, used Biblical figures of speech, no differently than pop culture making reference to Shakespeare.

To me, a useful part of moral reprobation is that it doesn't judge. That means, pragmatism, traditionalism, and conservatism are allowed. Tolerance has to tolerate. What really happens, when you're not bubble trapped, is a Hal Lindsey type of guy can talk to colleges, just as well as any cult member, and noone is burning the place down.

You were once against the use of force, right?


All this because a guy knocked over a 10 commandments monument...


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02 Jul 2017, 10:44 am

friedmacguffins wrote:
friedmacguffins wrote:
The leftists break all of their own commandments, but without the cloud of glory.


Kraichgauer wrote:
And how is that?


Shall we start with free speech?

The colleges used to discuss myth, and scientific advances, contemporaneously. It was like a wet lab, where you were allowed to test a theory -- not a coercive market control, in which you had to accept indoctrination, as a precondition for employment. Classical leftism used to be the alternative to petty tyranny, not a speech control, to break religious curios. Christianity should seem no more offensive to a leftist, than some pagan artifact, from any of the other cultures. The 10 Commandments should look no worse than the Round Table or Hammurabi's code, all things being equal. Historical communists, if you have ever read any, used Biblical figures of speech, no differently than pop culture making reference to Shakespeare.

To me, a useful part of moral reprobation is that it doesn't judge. That means, pragmatism, traditionalism, and conservatism are allowed. Tolerance has to tolerate. What really happens, when you're not bubble trapped, is a Hal Lindsey type of guy can talk to colleges, just as well as any cult member, and noone is burning the place down.

You were once against the use of force, right?


First colleges still accept free speech in the classroom, that said political events outside the classroom have always been subject to other concerns, namely safety (for events), and brand management (colleges, like all institutions are very concerned with image). These are normal restrictions on free speech that have been settled 50+ years ago. In the classroom you're free to speak your mind (assuming it's a discussion class and not a lab class), and if you get wild hisses and boos by claiming 1+1=3, that's merely your peers exercising their free speech, attempting to guide you to the correct answer. For some reason right-wingers equate freedom of speech with accepting their arguments as fact, this is not the case: you're free to speak whatever you want, but you personally deal with the blowback if it's unpopular, there's nothing in the Constitution that says others have to A. even listen to your speech, or B. accept your speech as fact.



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02 Jul 2017, 3:48 pm

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All this because a guy knocked over a 10 commandments monument...

They were outside of a cathedral, spraypainting people's eyeballs and talking about castrations. Used to commit overt acts of terrorism, in the 60's and 70's, and are now becoming more radicalized, again. The neighbor, behind me, talks about lighting things on fire.

I am used to Christo-phobia, find his stray dog and return it to him.

He gets his grandchildren involved.

No, I wasn't triggered by just one news story.