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08 Sep 2017, 8:00 am

Hi everyone, I'm new. I've been waiting 3 years for an assessment after various wrongly applied mental health labels (bipolar, borderline personality) finally I began to wonder if I'm on the spectrum. I have a daughter with quite severe autism and I feel I'm probably autistic.

Anyway, I had the ADOS this week and an IQ test & sensory profile. The IQ test was fine, not too stressful. The ADOS was stressful on account of being completely unable to provide a narrative to the pictures in the strange book about flying frogs. I could not make up a story using the objects either. And what is that strange map?

Has anyone else had this test? As I say I felt really awkward. But I don't know what the psychologist will conclude- apparently it's discussed by a panel at each stage. My AQ was 44 and my EQ 11.



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08 Sep 2017, 8:36 pm

I don't remember a map but I did the test with the frog picture book and the objects. Making up stories was easy for me, which is undoubtedly one of the reasons the psychologist decided I'm not autistic.

You should not feel stressed at testing; whatever you can or can't do helps the psychologists make an accurate diagnosis.



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08 Sep 2017, 8:39 pm

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Making up stories was easy for me, which is undoubtedly one of the reasons the psychologist decided I'm not autistic.



So if you can make up stories from pictures your not autistic? Or is it quality or originality of the story that matters?


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08 Sep 2017, 8:43 pm

That flying frogs book freaked me out.
I wasn't asked to make up a story for that, I was asked to describe what was happening in the story.
I had to make up a story with some random objects, which was a very lame story.


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08 Sep 2017, 8:46 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
starkid wrote:
Making up stories was easy for me, which is undoubtedly one of the reasons the psychologist decided I'm not autistic.



So if you can make up stories from pictures your not autistic? Or is it quality or originality of the story that matters?


I think they all matter. If you can't make up a story at all or you make up a story that makes no sense, that's supposedly a sign of autism (lack of imagination).



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08 Sep 2017, 8:51 pm

I wonder how a normal person would describe it?
Do they give the frogs and the old lady names and put emotions in?
I've often wondered.
Wish they had an answer sheet.


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08 Sep 2017, 8:57 pm

starkid wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
starkid wrote:
Making up stories was easy for me, which is undoubtedly one of the reasons the psychologist decided I'm not autistic.



So if you can make up stories from pictures your not autistic? Or is it quality or originality of the story that matters?


I think they all matter. If you can't make up a story at all or you make up a story that makes no sense, that's supposedly a sign of autism (lack of imagination).


I think I have an over active imagination , especially when I'm living in my head or dreaming :roll:


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09 Sep 2017, 5:58 pm

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09 Sep 2017, 6:04 pm

I did that test and from what the psychologist was saying when I did that test, I think it's just as significant (if not more so) how you do the tasks as whether you can do them. For example, with the flying frogs book, the fact that I went through the book and then explained it to him rather than telling it to him as a story and showing him the pictures was significant.

Apparently the psychologist also does things while you're doing the tasks and your reaction to what he does is also pretty significant.


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09 Sep 2017, 6:12 pm

They really need to go back to separating Asperger's Syndrome from Autism. Tests like the one being described in this thread illustrates that. To wit: "a sign of autism (lack of imagination)."

If one is severely autistic, then yeah, a profiler couldn't possibly ascertain their level of creativity, if any. But then you turn around and there are autistic people like Temple Grandin who's creativity is so far off the charts that she's been honored for it. And hers is in an esoteric subject to begin with (humane treatment of livestock).

Also, quite a lot of autistic folk are musicians, artists, programmers, writers, scientists, etc, and they're all very creative. If, as they surmise, people like Da Vinci, Turing, Tesla, Einstein, Zuckerberg, Gates, et. al. were/are autistic then, not only are autists creative, but intensely so.



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09 Sep 2017, 6:25 pm

Raleigh wrote:
That flying frogs book freaked me out.
I wasn't asked to make up a story for that, I was asked to describe what was happening in the story.
I had to make up a story with some random objects, which was a very lame story.

The flying frog thing is weird. I did not know it was used on everybody. I also had no clue what was happening in it. I also had to make up a story about random objects, but really struggled with that.
We are definitely capable of being very imaginative and creative as a 'neurotribe', but not when asked to be on the spot. Lots of authors have AS.



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09 Sep 2017, 6:28 pm

^ not to mention I have a terrible aversion to frogs.
I had trouble even looking at the book.
Wonder what they made of that?


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