What opinions are mandatory for a feminist?

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17 Dec 2017, 2:22 pm

- that only white men and Christians can be racists, homophobics and anti-women.
- Christianity is the only religion that is homophobic, anti-women and violent.
- that white men are the only ones who had slaves.
- that white men and Christians are not and have never been oppressed or experienced racism.
- that it is white men's fault that non-white males rapes women.
- that all white men are bad people
- that white men must disappear, this will happen via mass immigration, which will lead to white becoming a small minority and eventually after hundreds of years disappear.
- that white men rule the whole world, all countries, all cities, all rich are white men.
- that white men have anti-women views, racism, homophobia in the blood / DNA

Did i miss something?

time to feminists to change their views? feminists movement is very radical for beliving in this stuff.



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17 Dec 2017, 2:28 pm

I would like to point out that not all feminists are like that. But many for them from contemporary society are definitely quite extreme to the point of idiotic behavior and which are both harmful on themselves and to others.

I have little to no respect for modern feminists who act like this. I miss when feminism actually had meaning back in the past and not about how it's "offensive" for a guy to sit on the bus with his legs opened.


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17 Dec 2017, 2:35 pm

Once again, feminism is being mass-generalized and negatively stereotyped. Will it ever end? Probably only when all women become like the Stepford Wives. :roll:



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17 Dec 2017, 3:01 pm

None of them.
The Third Wave feminism seems to be so diffused that any non-ultra-conservative woman with pronounced opinions about the society can be called Third Wave feminist. And I wouldn't be surprised if there were some conservative feminists, too.
By the way, I don't identify with the feminist movement. I don't like any -isms. But the OP threw only a bunch of far-left stereotypes, not required by any form of feminism (except maybe for some radical far-left feminism which probably exists).


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17 Dec 2017, 5:57 pm

Isn't feminism someone who believes in equal rights for men and women?


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17 Dec 2017, 6:09 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Isn't feminism someone who believes in equal rights for men and women?


That is literally the only thing that you must believe to be a feminist. There are lots of different types of feminism, but the equality of men and women is the basic common tenet of all feminism. Just like there are lots of different flavours of Christianity but the one common tenet of all of them is the belief in Jesus Christ.



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17 Dec 2017, 6:11 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Isn't feminism someone who believes in equal rights for men and women?

^^^^
This

The OP’s list is mandatory for SJW’s.


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17 Dec 2017, 6:31 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Isn't feminism someone who believes in equal rights for men and women?

No, it’s a movement meant to empower only women. When it started women couldn’t even vote. So it was made to make women equal or more powerful then men, it has nothing to do with male issues or stopping wrong attitudes towards men.

That’s why we have equalism
Equalism is the belief that all human beings, regardless of gender, race, age, ethnic origin, or any other factor that defines our individual differences, are totally equal.

If I started an group called menism and said it was about equality for men and women, would you believe it given men is in he name? And what if most the groups actions were only geared towards men and did nothing about female issues? What if it started saying having the heater on is discrimination against men.

Feminism was once needed, it’s not anymore it’s outlived it’s purpose, it completed it’s goal. So then what? Do they pack up give up their high paying jobs and find other work or do they start going radical and keep getting huge donations and keep heir high paid job?

If they are really truely interested in equality they need a name change and to start focusing on male issues. Like divorce law, child custody laws. Men not being able to cry, not being bale to share emotions. But all that would take power away from women. No feminism want to be more powerful and special. They want men to open doors for them, pay for dates, pay child support for kids they never wanted. They want special treatment at work like no ac during summer. Make men suffer in heat.

I’ll never support feminism it’s name is pretty clear what it’s about.
If I was to join a group it’d be equalism which is fighting for equality for all humans regardless of their sex, race, or beliefs.



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17 Dec 2017, 6:34 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Isn't feminism someone who believes in equal rights for men and women?


That is literally the only thing that you must believe to be a feminist. There are lots of different types of feminism, but the equality of men and women is the basic common tenet of all feminism. Just like there are lots of different flavours of Christianity but the one common tenet of all of them is the belief in Jesus Christ.

If your about equality why don’t you fight for male rights? Male issues? Most males are not anymore powerful then women. Nothing has been done by feminism to help male issues or get ride of male steroptupes. Not a single thing. Bit odd for a organization that claims to be working for equality of men and women. Everything they do is to help w,en and empower women, and get rid of female stereotypes.



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17 Dec 2017, 6:36 pm

sly279 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Isn't feminism someone who believes in equal rights for men and women?

No, it’s a movement meant to empower only women. When it started women couldn’t even vote. So it was made to make women equal or more powerful then men, it has nothing to do with male issues or stopping wrong attitudes towards men.


Feminism was about giving equal rights to woman, like the right to vote and equal pay in the workforce. Not to make women more powerful than men but given the same rights as men.... What you've mentioned is more of the stereotype, yet sadly some feminists of today's culture are part of that stereotype...


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17 Dec 2017, 6:40 pm

I worked for a neurologist. His wife was a state legislator.

His old beater compact car had this bumper sticker on it:

Feminism is the radical notion that women are people.

That's my mandatory opinion and I'm sticking to it :-)


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17 Dec 2017, 6:52 pm

sly279 wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Isn't feminism someone who believes in equal rights for men and women?


That is literally the only thing that you must believe to be a feminist. There are lots of different types of feminism, but the equality of men and women is the basic common tenet of all feminism. Just like there are lots of different flavours of Christianity but the one common tenet of all of them is the belief in Jesus Christ.

If your about equality why don’t you fight for male rights? Male issues? Most males are not anymore powerful then women. Nothing has been done by feminism to help male issues or get ride of male steroptupes. Not a single thing. Bit odd for a organization that claims to be working for equality of men and women. Everything they do is to help w,en and empower women, and get rid of female stereotypes.


You are making all kinds of assumptions about me based on your own biases against feminists. None of these things you say accurately reflect me or what I fight for. For example, I think circumcizing babies is wrong and is a form of genital mutilation that should be just as illegal as FGM is. I also think societal expectations based on genders roles are just as unfair (and damaging) to men as they are to women--like how we teach little boys not to cry or show feelings, which I disagree with.

Just because I say I am a feminist you can't assume to know everything I think and do. Because you make mistakes in your assumptions, and you end up arguing with yourself about things no one said but you.



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17 Dec 2017, 7:27 pm

In my opinion, anyone who considers themselves a civil rights activist for any group, who thinks achieving said group's equality should involve taking rights away from another group, is not a true civil rights activist. We should be trying to bring everyone to the same level of rights, but in a positive manner. To me, OP describes radicalism, which is not specific to feminism.

When I see men's rights people act as though all women are against all men, I see it as the same thing as when women's rights people act as though all men are against all women.



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17 Dec 2017, 9:11 pm

sly279 wrote:
If your about equality why don’t you fight for male rights? Male issues?

I could ask the same of "equalists". What have "equalists" achieved? What significant campaigns for men's rights have "equalists" led?

Feminists have successfully campaigned for re-definitions of rape which include crimes committed by women against men. Feminists have successfully campaigned for shared parental leave. Feminists have successfully campaigned for single men to get tax deductions for their children. Feminists have campaigned for men to be able to report sexual assault in the military and in prison, for men to not be sexually objectified in the media, for men to be freer to become teachers and nurses, for immigration reform (which disproportionately benefits men), and against toxic masculinity.

"Equalists" and their ilk need to put up or shut up. Currently it seems like they exist just to bash feminism. I'll respect equalists when they have half the intellectual clout or real-world achievements as feminists.



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17 Dec 2017, 9:48 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Isn't feminism someone who believes in equal rights for men and women?


That is literally the only thing that you must believe to be a feminist. There are lots of different types of feminism, but the equality of men and women is the basic common tenet of all feminism. Just like there are lots of different flavours of Christianity but the one common tenet of all of them is the belief in Jesus Christ.
Yep, both of you, but trying to get some men to understand that. There are some men who truly prove this quote:

‘When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression’


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17 Dec 2017, 11:33 pm

Beautifully said Walrus & Skilpadde