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Mariamtee
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26 Feb 2018, 12:27 pm

Hello,

I vaccinated all 4 of my children. 2 of my girls are diagnosed ASD and my 6 month old girl is showing signs of it after the dTap vaccine. I’m worried I may have caused it by letting them get vaccinated. I would love to hear stories of people with autism who are not vaccinated to make me feel better. I don’t trust the CDC and their scientific research is vague.

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26 Feb 2018, 1:23 pm

I’m unvaccinated.



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26 Feb 2018, 1:30 pm

I delayed and selectively vaccinated my eldest daughter and did not give her the MMR - she had the measles and rubella vaccines as separate vaccines, she has diagnosed ASD.

My youngest daughter also had delayed vaccines but had the MMR and she appears fairly neurotypical.....So far!

Hope that makes you feel better. Vaccines do not cause autism.


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26 Feb 2018, 2:08 pm

Mariamtee wrote:
Hello,

I vaccinated all 4 of my children. 2 of my girls are diagnosed ASD and my 6 month old girl is showing signs of it after the dTap vaccine. I’m worried I may have caused it by letting them get vaccinated. I would love to hear stories of people with autism who are not vaccinated to make me feel better. I don’t trust the CDC and their scientific research is vague.

Mariam

This sort of thing rears its ugly head from time to time. You can be absolutely sure that you did not cause ASD. There is NO link between autism and vaccines. You should trust the CDC and the research is very clear.



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26 Feb 2018, 2:13 pm

Well, I'm vaccinated, but my brother got all the same vaccines I did at about the same ages I did. I'm autistic, he's NT.


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26 Feb 2018, 2:29 pm

If you mean these modern multi-purpose vaccines, they didn't do those in my day. I got vaccinated for whooping cough, diphtheria and polio I think. And I was (eventually) diagnosed with Aspergers.



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26 Feb 2018, 2:38 pm

I'm rather suspicious that some vaccines can cause autism (but not the MMR vaccines). I remember when I was about 9, all children had to suddenly have this meningitis vaccine. But on the night before the vaccine day, a mother of another Aspie child phoned my mum and told her not to let me have the vaccine because it might 'make my Asperger's worse'. That frightened the s**t out of me, and whether it is true or not, it still makes me petrified of having any vaccinations. I'm so scared to turn into a person who can no longer communicate their feelings.

But I don't think it was true though, because there were obviously undiagnosed Aspie children out there who got the vaccine and did not suddenly change functioning levels.


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26 Feb 2018, 2:41 pm

If vaccines caused autism, you would have had many thousands of people, all of a sudden, getting autism in the late 50s-early 60s when people were mass-vaccinated for polio.

This would have been reported in the mainstream literature...



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26 Feb 2018, 2:42 pm

nephets wrote:
Mariamtee wrote:
Hello,

I vaccinated all 4 of my children. 2 of my girls are diagnosed ASD and my 6 month old girl is showing signs of it after the dTap vaccine. I’m worried I may have caused it by letting them get vaccinated. I would love to hear stories of people with autism who are not vaccinated to make me feel better. I don’t trust the CDC and their scientific research is vague.

Mariam

This sort of thing rears its ugly head from time to time. You can be absolutely sure that you did not cause ASD. There is NO link between autism and vaccines. You should trust the CDC and the research is very clear.


I would like to add, in support of nephets, that the chemical that is blamed (falsely) by anti-vaxxers is usually the preservative thimerosal.

Please be aware that people of all ages have painted thimerosal on open wounds to prevent infection, for generations. It is also known as merthiolate. If the people thus exposed developed symptoms consistent with ASD post exposure, then we would be the "neurotypicals", by sheer force of numbers.


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26 Feb 2018, 2:50 pm

There is no way of retro diagnosing historical figures but there is documented evidence of people with many autistic traits existing prior to vaccines.

The vaccines cause autism theory is making big profits for people selling "treatments" and "cures" and "diets" to "recover" people.

If you follow these theories to their logical conclusion autistic people are not really human but some sort of dangerous mutants.
Autism is very difficult to live with at times but making people think intentionally or unintentionally that they they are mutants or that their parents poisoned them is often worse.


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26 Feb 2018, 2:55 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
If vaccines caused autism, you would have had many thousands of people, all of a sudden, getting autism in the late 50s-early 60s when people were mass-vaccinated for polio.

This would have been reported in the mainstream literature...


Yes. The link between smoking and lung cancer wasn't something the tobacco giants wanted people to believe, but even with all their wealth, the research got done and it got published. Some of these conspiracy theories depend on the cover-uppers being incredibly effective. Suppression of findings does go on, but once the matter is in the public eye, I think the truth comes out pretty quickly. And this vaccination-causes-autism thing has been in the public eye for a long time.



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26 Feb 2018, 3:02 pm

^^ so check out the literature on neural pruning, which occurs in two major episodes, with the first happening at just the age when many children now receive multiple vaccinations. ASDs are now being explored as mutations indeed - in the neural pruning process. Of which there are many, more than enough to explain the variation in autistic subtypes observed.

Correlation is not causation.


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26 Feb 2018, 3:09 pm

We have a user named OliveOilMom (she hasn't been here in awhile), who has told us that she's never been vaccinated (she has allergies), and she's an Aspie.

I feel it's quite possible that vaccines can be a cause----A cause, but not THEE cause----or, more specifically, an ingredient in some vaccines. I feel there are possibly several things that can cause autism----for instance, IMO, it's quite possible that certain metals could be a cause, and they're found in almost everything, it-seems-like, nowadays (i.e., toothpaste, deodorant, etc.).








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26 Feb 2018, 3:19 pm

To old for the MMR and I didn't get the separate measles one because I had eczema, for that week only :? I had the hooping cough one but got hooping cough anyway. My Mother also eat lots of broccoli and yogurt.



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26 Feb 2018, 3:45 pm

There is absolutely no evidence of a link between ASD and vaccines. While you can not prove something does not exist there is absolutely no evidence that even suggests a possible link.

The guy who originally reported this has been stuck off for faking evidence and for having conflicts of interest. He was stuck off. That is as bad as it gets. Not just fired but stopped from ever practicing again.

A huge amount of stress has be caused and a huge amount of money has been wasted because someone tried to get rich by producing lies. The fact it was published in The Lancet, which is considered one of the best medical journals in the world, makes it even worse but still not true.

http://www.autism.org.uk/get-involved/m ... ccine.aspx



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26 Feb 2018, 5:01 pm

From 1974, there has been a mandatory vaccination of children in Sweden, there is no increase of autism because of it. The rise of Autism/Asperger diagnosis's is mainly due to better diagnostic tools, and Asperger wasn't even considered a thing before it got translated from German to English in the mid 90's.

Only poorly educated idiots who believe in conspiracy theory s**t continue to believe that there is a correlation between vaccination and Autism. Please stop reiterating this kind of crap.


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