Is my hatred of Apple Irrational?

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Every time I see someone using an iPhone or a Macbook I cringe. I associated iPhones with teenaged girls and basic b*tches.

I don't care about the price since I think quality is worth paying for, it's the design that bugs me. The design feels patronising, like they think the user is extremely non-technical.

Perhaps Apple have proven that a good design is less important than a slick marketing campaign. They killed the qwerty keyboard phone and with their iPad education event it seems like they're trying to kill the laptop. I find it difficult to imagine the iPad having any educational value.

I see people who buy Apple products as gullible fools who got suckered in to a slick but vacuous marketing campaign. Is my hatred of Apple products and the people who use them irrational?

I dislike the way they make people dependent on apple stuff because it's not compatible with other devices / services etc. Android is open source. I like android for that reason.

it is quite irrational.

i use a macbook and although i need a reliable computer i have no need or interest in learning technical stuff, a lot of people working on creative/design/art fields are like that and i guess is fair. i just want to buy something i know i can trust and it's easy to choose. my screen is better than every other laptop i ever tested and i never had much problem with it – and i'm not a careful person, i had a lot of small accidents with it and no problem. my battery is great even after almost 3 years, most of my windows user colleagues have problems with it after months.

interface-wise, i've been using windows for some specific softwares and OK i may be biased because i'm used to mac and maybe i don't know how to use some stuff on windows, but the interface on mac seems much more "fluid".

it's a lot more expensive and i guess with the same money i could buy something similar from other brand or i could personalize it, but it mean spending time and energy in something i'm not interested in. i don't think i'm a basic b***h for that.

for the iphone, i had one for a while and i recently changed for an samsung. even though i read a lot of praises on the samsung camera, it feels strange compared to the iphone camera, specially the selfie camera – the photo feels a lot processed. also, i'm managed to get a malware on the samsung something that never happened on the iphone.

There's some very tech savy people who use Apple because they find using all Apple is less buggy since everything is made by one company instead of mixing products & parts up from lots of various companies. Those people would use Microsoft if Microsoft would make all the components for computers, phones & tablets in addition to making Windows. I don't use apple because I like being able to modify & change out things. I wanted a job repairing computers when I was about 19. A lot of that stuff is over my head but I'm not afraid to tinker around when something goes wrong or doesn't work rite.

As someone who understand software and hardware, I am not a fan of Apple's proprietary nightmare. If there's a problem with my hardware I'd rather my own stupid self fix it as opposed to being forced to take it to an apple 'genius' for repairs. Besides, researching components and manually installing the hardware are the best part of getting a new rig, once that's done you realize it's still just a computer, one that's only slightly faster than the last one.

As someone who was always a very proficient PC user I started using Apple products about 7 years ago and haven't looked back. My first device, an iPhone lasted 5.5 years without any issues. Soon after I bought a MacBook Pro which is still performing perfectly and is as stable as a rock, indeed I'm using it now as I write this. I bought an iPad a few years later which also hasn't given me an ounce of trouble. Perhaps I've just been lucky. My only criticism is that the power supply cable on the MacBook Pro is very poorly thought out. The cable is far too thin for the amount of current it has to carry and it gets very warm and has caused all of the insulation to drop off, starting at the proprietary magnetic connector. I suspect Apple designed it to look sleek and sophisticated, but the laws of physics are immutable and even Apple can't manage to shove a decent amount of current through a cable the diameter of a noodle.

I think there's a lot of truth in the notion that Apple has dummied down its devices. They finally worked it out that the sucker market is a much easier way to a lasting income stream.

Due to lack of options in my area the only cell service available forces me to use an iPhone. As a 'techie' I despise it, especially since anything 'net related I'll use a computer and not a phone/pad-- all I need on my phone is the ability to call people and receive calls.

All that said, the truth is computers in general are dumbing down the population. I was talking to my friend's nephew a few weeks back, he was on spring break from college where he's getting a degree in engineering. So I joked: "College, the good times, I miss practicing differential equations." He looked at me dumbfounded. So I probed a bit further, and he had no idea what a differential equation was, then he pulled out his smartphone and asked which symbol it was on his scientific calculator app. He also explained to me he doesn't need to know how to do one, or how it works, that's what they invented scientific calculators for...He graduates this year with his degree, when I heard that I wanted to cry.

no, I also hate Apple, they have the worst operating system ever, until Java is better

Indeed, it's an insult to spartan sensibilities, though it can be hard to explain why anybody should ever do anything themselves if there's a machine handy that'll do it quicker. But there's a bigger picture here, about dependency and control. I just wish I knew the right balance between playing into their greedy hands and going back to pencil and paper.

I have no problems using a scientific calculator, it is indeed more efficient, but a person should also know what the calculations actually do, especially if they're going to be an engineer .

Absolutely. One of my teachers wouldn't allow slide rules in his class (late 1960s), much to our annoyance, because he wanted us to know what we were doing.

Did you try buying a knockoff cable There's a chance it'll work better than the official Apple one

I've used shrinkwrap around the very fine cable from the transformer to the "Magsafe" connector, very surprised it hasn't completely burned out. When it fails completely I'll crack the transformer open and solder a length of decent SWG cable on, will have to somehow jerryrig the connection to the Magsafe connector. Alternatively pick up a knock off cable off Ebay or something and use that. It's disappointing that on an otherwise well engineered device like the MBP the power supply was designed by a graphic designer not an engineer. Perhaps the motive is to sell more replacement power supplies that people will have to buy after the initial one inevitably fails, they sell for well over $100 in Australia.

I agree with that 100%

Apple is a terrible monopoly but I don't fully support your reasoning.

Machines should be user-servicable. Good machines are built this way. Macbooks are a pretty weak excuse for laptops next to Thinkpads.