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thinkinginpictures
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28 Jun 2018, 9:46 am

I am pretty sure that Putin/Russia is preparing an invasion of European nations and enslave our people, and I'm not talking Ukraine, but Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Poland. They also prepare invasion of Germany and France later, using conscripts and slaves from Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Poland.

Turkey will be allied to Russia and leave NATO, but use all NATO informations they had from their membership, to support Russia. Turkey will invade Greece, Macedonia and Romania.

Italy will not support NATO, as Italy is now allied with Putin's Russia because of the new fascist government in Italy!

With Poland, I suspect Russia is trying to overthrow the Polish democracy through use of diplomatic relations - after all Putin has a lot in common with the current Polish government, as the Polish government is very un-democratic, authoritarian and very reactionary in nature.

When Russian influence is firmly established in Poland, as it currently is in Hungary (and later Austria - they have close ties to Russia), Russia will deploy armed forces in both countries and prepare for invasion of Germany & Denmark.

When the Russians have taken Germany and Denmark, they will conscript all the citizens of these occupied countries and use them as cannon fodder to invade France.

Trump will not support NATO. Trump too is supported by Russia/Trump supports Russia, so of course Trump will just let this happen, and even if Trumps dies of old age before WW3, his successors will not support NATO either.

We're doomed, unless we ban the following pro-Russian parties in EU:

* AFD, Germany.

* Front National (or whatever they're called currently), France.

* Nye Borgerlige, Denmark.

* All Fascist-parties, Italy.

Banning these parties, will give hope that Europe will not fall in the hands of Putin, and the citizens of EU will not become slaves of Russia!



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28 Jun 2018, 9:52 am

I just don't see this scenario coming into fruition.....



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28 Jun 2018, 9:55 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I just don't see this scenario coming into fruition.....


Why not?

It's that obvious! All the right wing parties of Europe, not the centre-right, but Right-wing-parties like AFD are all supported by Russia. They never criticize Putin, and they want close ties to Russia and crack down on any anti-russian opposition if they win the elections!

I'm sure Italy's new government is already cracking down on free speech, to crack down on anti-Putin speeches!

I'm also sure Italy is also censoring the media, to present pro-Russian views only!



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28 Jun 2018, 10:16 am

Because the US....and NATO.....would not allow this to happen.....that's why.

Trump or no Trump.



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28 Jun 2018, 10:44 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Because the US....and NATO.....would not allow this to happen.....that's why.

Trump or no Trump.


As a Dane, I do fear Russian invasion.



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28 Jun 2018, 10:53 am

I can understand your fears...but I highly doubt (and that’s putting it mildly) that this would happen. For many reasons.



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28 Jun 2018, 11:21 am

That could develop into a nice fictional WW3 book.



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29 Jun 2018, 3:33 pm

I thought of the same thing like 3 years ago when the migrant crisis was blowing up! (granted I was being half sarcastic but all the signs are there!) With Russia backing the govt in Syria and helping flame up tensions in the region, it's caused a massive migration wave in Europe which continues to divide the continent, radicalizing everyone to either the left or the right. The division was evident when Brexit happened, and with Russia interfering in US elections the big western powers will be less likely to interfere do to their own internal struggles when Russia launches their invasion. Putin is playing the whole world!! !! !! !! (probably just a crazy conspiracy theory but it's so absurd that it's possible)



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29 Jun 2018, 3:58 pm

Maecenas wrote:
I thought of the same thing like 3 years ago when the migrant crisis was blowing up! (granted I was being half sarcastic but all the signs are there!) With Russia backing the govt in Syria and helping flame up tensions in the region, it's caused a massive migration wave in Europe which continues to divide the continent, radicalizing everyone to either the left or the right. The division was evident when Brexit happened, and with Russia interfering in US elections the big western powers will be less likely to interfere do to their own internal struggles when Russia launches their invasion. Putin is playing the whole world!! ! ! ! ! ! ! (probably just a crazy conspiracy theory but it's so absurd that it's possible)


My advice to you and the person who started the thread is to turn off the insane media you are listening to. Start reading stuff and watching stuff you disagree with at least to hear the alternative to the insanity we are being sprayed with.

Please do not spew tripe that Russia caused the problems in Syria. If it were not for Russia, Syria would have become the new Libya. Worse! Amazing how the media has gotten people to wish Al Qaeda would have won in Syria. Sorry, but some Facebook ads did not away the election.


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29 Jun 2018, 4:19 pm

If I lived in Denmark I might have anxiety about Russia (just look at the map).

And between the two of them, Putin, and Trump, great strides have indeed been made in breaking up NATO..

But an out and out war of aggression would be suicidal for either superpower to attempt. Putin is definitely angling for expanding his geographic sphere of influence. But in a more low profile way than that.



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29 Jun 2018, 4:27 pm

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If I lived in Denmark I might have anxiety about Russia (just look at the map).

And between the two of them, Putin, and Trump, great strides have indeed been made in breaking up NATO..

But an out and out war of aggression would be suicidal for either superpower to attempt. Putin is definitely angling for expanding his geographic sphere of influence. But in a more low profile way than that.


Nope.

The US just had an increase in military spending that is bigger than Russia's entire military spending. Russia actually spends its defence budget on defence. The US spends pretty much all of its on attack.

NATO was meant to be a counter to the Soviet Union which imploded in 1991. NATO should have been taken away then. It is their aggression that has led to Russian retaliation.


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29 Jun 2018, 5:28 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
I'm sure Italy's new government is already cracking down on free speech, to crack down on anti-Putin speeches!

I'm also sure Italy is also censoring the media, to present pro-Russian views only!

Too bad it's lefty filth that always tries to censor and silence very legitimate and reasonable opinions by accusing people of being nazis and fascists.

Oh and it's America who has a f*****g shedload of military bases on our territory, last I checked. Not Russia.



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29 Jun 2018, 5:38 pm

If I lived anywhere in Central Europe, I would be leery.
That being said, I don't think Russia can actually afford to attack anyone. Between sanctions and low oil and gas prices, they're broke.
And even if you believe that current political movements would encourage Russia to take a whack at invading Europe, these are peoples with a collective memory of Russia that spans centuries. I truly believe that any invasion would pull people together, both locally and internationally.


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29 Jun 2018, 6:46 pm

Russia definitely has aspirations to acquire more territory and influence. I think that they would need to move pretty slowly, though. A military takeover of a country and then maintaining control is not cheap.



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02 Jul 2018, 8:35 pm

With Putin influencing Trump to pull out of NATO, I think it's obvious he want to ultimately expand Russian influence to the Atlantic. Whether that's a military invasion, or simply establishing increasingly right wing Strongman regimes to replace democratic governments in western and central Europe remains to be seen. I'm more likely to err on the side of the latter, though neither option is acceptable.


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03 Jul 2018, 12:13 pm

Peacesells wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
I'm sure Italy's new government is already cracking down on free speech, to crack down on anti-Putin speeches!

I'm also sure Italy is also censoring the media, to present pro-Russian views only!

Too bad it's lefty filth that always tries to censor and silence very legitimate and reasonable opinions by accusing people of being nazis and fascists.

Oh and it's America who has a f*****g shedload of military bases on our territory, last I checked. Not Russia.


American bases in Mideast.
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And I shall add one more star: Israel = a big American Base.