Have any of you been to Indian reservations?

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fifasy
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02 Feb 2019, 3:32 am

What are they like?

I'm curious.

Is there any evidence of Autistic people being treated differently among Indians?



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02 Feb 2019, 4:20 am

*ahem... Native Americans



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02 Feb 2019, 4:22 am

fifasy wrote:
What are they like?

I'm curious.

Is there any evidence of Autistic people being treated differently among Indians?

"Been to" — yes, but not in a way that would let me answer your main question. I actually camped on the Navajo reservation in Arizona for a month or so, but it was as a member of a paleontology expedition and we were in the middle of the desert — so there was no one there, Indian or otherwise. :D (But that's a partial answer: many of the reservations in the Southwest are largely desert.)


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02 Feb 2019, 6:00 am

hurtloam wrote:
*ahem... Native Americans

To call them this is quite rude towards the ones who aren't born in America and towards other people who are born in America but aren't Indians. Why are you that way? 8O


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02 Feb 2019, 7:13 am

If you’ve been to the Mohegan Sun, you’ve been on a reservation.



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02 Feb 2019, 9:05 am

I don't need a reservation, i just go to the restaurant and eat curry :D


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02 Feb 2019, 9:05 am

quite an extreme wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
*ahem... Native Americans

To call them this is quite rude towards the ones who aren't born in America and towards other people who are born in America but aren't Indians. Why are you that way? 8O



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The term Indians as applied to Native Americans, or the indigenous peoples of the Americas, is thought to have originated in a misconception on the part of the Europeans who arrived in Central America in 1492. Since Christopher Columbus began his journey to America with the intent of finding an alternate route to Southeast Asia, he is said to have assumed that the people he came into contact with upon reaching land were Indians. Despite the fact that people probably realized this mistake within hours, the name remained in use. Similarly, the islands in Central America came to be called the "West Indies", as opposed to the "East Indies" that Columbus originally had in mind as his destination.

In the 1970s, the academic world began promoting the term Native Americans as a politically correct alternative to Indians. Some people feel that Native Americans is more accurate and less stigmatizing. However, Native Americans also has some issues, as anyone born in the Americas, indigenous or not, could be considered "Native American" if the term is taken literally. "Indigenous peoples of the Americas" is the most accurate term, but too cumbersome to be used regularly in everyday speech. Native Americans caught on to some degree, especially in the media, but the term Indians is still widely used.

Native Americans continue to refer to themselves as Indians, especially those of older generations. In addition, American Indian is the official legal term used in the United States. Indians can also be a useful term because it traditionally does not include the indigenous people of Hawaii or Alaska, a distinction not present in the term Native Americans.

The correct way to refer to Native Americans will probably continue to be debated well into the foreseeable future. However, for better or worse, Indians has certainly pervaded legal, literary, and vernacular language in both North and South America. It's strange to think that such an entrenched word is most likely based on a mistake.



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02 Feb 2019, 9:36 am

Wiki refers to them as "Indian" Reservations. As does the "National Indian Law Library". I lived and worked on the Grand Portage Reservation in the early 1990s. It was a depressing place with a high rate rate of alcohol abuse. I knew three people who grew up there but moved off of it and they said it was a toxic place and their decision to leave it was one of the best things they did.



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02 Feb 2019, 10:45 am

Yes, I have been to a reservation before. As others have said, they are depressing places to live. Think run down trailer park depressing, as they have little money and are treated unequally when they go off the reservation. There might be nicer reservation villages out there, but I am basing my post on what I saw personally.

I was saddened by what I viewed there. A big problem is drug use, but not always the type most would expect. Some choose to drink household cleaners to get drunk, since alcohol cannot be sold on reservations. It leads to similar brain damage as meth use.

As the white population moved towards the west, the natives were forced off of their lands into places that no one wanted. There is a large portion of South Dakota that is reservations for different tribes. Oklahoma also has quite a bit of reservation land, along with New Mexico. The US government should do much more to improve their quality of life and not try to force them to lose what they are.

As for the question about how they treat AS, I cannot accurately answer that as I was not there long enough to be able to know either way.



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02 Feb 2019, 1:02 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
Why are you that way? 8O

This was just a joke. I hate political correctness. It's an ugly thing.


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02 Feb 2019, 2:30 pm

I used to watch a TV show called Roswell and the characters on that were referred to as Indians and they called themselves that, at least if I remember correctly. But there is some confusion about what the correct term is. Legally I believe Indian is the right term but among younger generations perhaps they are more keen on the term Native American.

I was really curious if among this native American group there were any differences in how they treated/perceived Autism but it seems nobody really has any knowledge of that here. Well, it was worth asking anyway.



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02 Feb 2019, 2:38 pm

How many have heard the phrase 'First Nations' used in Canada?.

I know that there is one reservation nearby (Caledonia(?)) and as much of travelling doesn't interest me, I mean to visit one, one day maybe on a day when there is a special event.



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02 Feb 2019, 3:52 pm

I've been to the Taos Pueblo. At the time, I had never even heard of autism and wouldn't have known it if I saw it.



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02 Feb 2019, 4:26 pm

Just a normal piece of land like all the other lands. They are there in the first place because back in the days our country would give them a small piece of land for them to live on and it was their own protected property. If they left that piece of land, they were legal to shoot by anyone. That was how they were treated then. Like cattle as if they weren't human.

I have lived on an Indian Reservation and many people there were Native Americans and they had their own laws and their own court for tribal members and their own language called Salish. And there were lot of white people there too and we had foreign exchange students in my high school. But it still felt no different than living on other land, I just noticed the difference between city life and rural life. So many small towns and communities and how different life is there it was like being in a different culture. No one dressed up for dances unless it was school prom. No one dressed nicely unless they were going to some party. I bet the same would happen on a non Indian Reservation in small towns and where everything is so rural. But surprisingly where I lived, crime in our small town was high it made the list of Montana's dangerous towns to be in and my hometown had made that list and the other town I used to work in. I wasn't surprised because I was always hearing about crime and f****d up things when I was in high school and hearing it on the local radio. But I was treated better in my schools there than I was back in Washington in a city. No one bullied me or harassed me and the schools were a lot smaller so I got the help I needed I would not have gotten back where we used to live.

I have been through Yakima Indian Reservation and Warm Springs Indian Reservation. Warm Sprinsg Indian Reservation is very dry and there is nothing in it but KaNeeTah which recently shut down. It was a resort area and it had a huge swimming pool. I had been there several times as a kid and was just there last summer for the weekend.

Yakima Reservation, also dry but full of irrigation so it's wet land and very pretty. Towns looks okay in it I have been through whenever we would go to Yakima to see my mom's brother.


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02 Feb 2019, 4:30 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
*ahem... Native Americans

To call them this is quite rude towards the ones who aren't born in America and towards other people who are born in America but aren't Indians. Why are you that way? 8O



But that is what they are actually called now. Indians are just people who are from India so it just causes confusion to call Native Americans Indians because are we talking about Natives or ones from India?

Reason why we were calling them Indians was because when our land got discovered, Christopher Columbus thought he was in India.


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02 Feb 2019, 4:44 pm

Not really "been to", but our family drove through the largest reservation in the lower 48, which is the Navajo Reservation that straddles New Mexico, and Arizona. It surrounds the smaller reservations of the Zuni, and Hopi. We drove past a modern looking adobe building labeled the "Navahopi Kitchen" roadside dinner right on the boundry line. Don't recall that we stopped there and ate though. Pity.

The Navajo Reservation is about the same size as Pennsylvania, or the same size as the Netherlands and Belgium combined, but only had a population of about 150 thousand people at the time. Very sparse. The Navajo live in solitary circular huts called "hogans". In contrast the town dwelling Zuni, and Hopi, who live adobe pueblos. We saw a few hogans from the road, and bought some oranges from some Navajo children by the road. The lovely semi desert landscape, and big sky, were a bigger part of the experience than the few people we ran across.