I hate a certain woman. Is this behaviour unacceptable?

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08 Oct 2019, 12:06 pm

We are both studying the same programme and we are both "friends" because there is another person that is the common denominator in the group. Lets call the woman A and the denominator B.

1. This woman keeps avoiding me for reasons I don't understand. When B is not present in the classroom she will avoid me and come up with excuses such as not being able to see well in the backrow. Meanwhile, if B is present, she will sit ANYWHERE. She just wants an excuse not to sit next to me which I feel offended by.

2. She said she had spare time during the summer. I said to the group that I would get bored. She then gave me suggestions on meeting people through activities. Wouldn't a friend not mind asking to hang out instead of straightout direct you to other groups?

3. When B is not present she doesn't sit next to me, instead she literally talks to anyone but me. In class, she knows that I had reserved a chair (I'm as autistic as one can get, that chair is MINE) but she chose to occupy it only because B was there. If B weren't there, she wouldn't do that because that would imply her sitting next to me.

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I'm getting mad as hell. I don't like it when people aren't straight with me.

I'm getting the impressions that she avoids me and doesn't like me. She has stated she does like me and view me as a friend but none of her actions prove that. Nowadays, whenever she tries to talk to me or anything, I shut her off because I don't want to deal with her mysterious BS. I answer as bluntly and coldly as possible and purpously avoid eye contact with her because I want her to piss off.

Maybe she is shy but well intentioned, but seeing her socialize with everyone and avoiding me when B is not present makes my blood boil. I don't care if she doesn't like me. What I care about is the possibility of her pretending to be my friend.

At this point I simply avoid her, I can't convince myself to give the relationship a new try.

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What have I tried? I have told that her that I'm autistic and that I like her and B (friendly way). She said she did the same. None of her actions reflect that. It's probably worse now that I'm constantly angry at her and want to hurt her for playing this game with me. Either bluntly tell me we aren't friends or piss off.

Unfortunately, because I'm friend with B, I can't completely avoid that filth.

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TL;DR: I hate it when people are not straight with me and say things that are otherwise not in agreement with reality.



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08 Oct 2019, 12:52 pm

Just avoid her, cease caring and get over it? These people are neurotypical, they're communicating in a way that isn't ever going to be obvious to you, so why are you bothering yourself this much? Most neurotypicals say they like everyone but it doesn't actually mean they like everyone, they probably don't like you enough to go out of their way to accommodate your autism, which is fine and thats their prerogative. They're not doing anything overtly horrible to you, they're just being (from what I can tell) normal young people.

If you can't cope that they're not being "straight" with you, then separate. Surely it's not that big of a loss since you're clearly starting to disdain this person.

Don't be an a***hole to her, just avoid her or stop giving a s**t and focus on the people you mesh with.



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08 Oct 2019, 1:08 pm

Olivia_H wrote:
Just avoid her, cease caring and get over it? These people are neurotypical, they're communicating in a way that isn't ever going to be obvious to you, so why are you bothering yourself this much? Most neurotypicals say they like everyone but it doesn't actually mean they like everyone, they probably don't like you enough to go out of their way to accommodate your autism, which is fine and thats their prerogative. They're not doing anything overtly horrible to you, they're just being (from what I can tell) normal young people.

If you can't cope that they're not being "straight" with you, then separate. Surely it's not that big of a loss since you're clearly starting to disdain this person.

Don't be an a***hole to her, just avoid her or stop giving a s**t and focus on the people you mesh with.


As I said, I can't just "separate" since we are both friends with person B and we both want to hang out with him. Very often than not I'm forced to hang out with her because B and her hang out.

I'm not an as*hole towards her. I act like we are strangers and thats it. I don't greet her or anything, just like a regular stranger. Not an as*hole for that.



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08 Oct 2019, 4:15 pm

Did you start treating her like a stranger because of this behaviour you describe her doing?

I think that's what your post is saying.
So when B is present she actually talks to you and is friendly?

I take it you've said something to her like 'why are you only friendly when B is around?'

If so, Iwould suggest trying to make other friends in the class if you are able,so her behavior then wouldn't affect you.
If you're not able to, I'm not sure what you could do.



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08 Oct 2019, 4:50 pm

I think you should use this hate to make you understand she is not worth it. Sometimes us aspies have people who are just nice to us but aren’t friends they interpret our behaviors as not close. I call this the eternal stranger.and others will purposely try to sabotage you to get a kick or just there nature to avoid what they don’t understand.


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08 Oct 2019, 9:55 pm

I would just forget about her and find yourself a better friend. She doesn't seem like a real friend to me.


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08 Oct 2019, 11:36 pm

Is she an NT or an Aspie?
NTs usually avoid Aspies. NTs prefer other NTs.
Aspies must find other Aspies that they can relate to because most NTs avoid us Aspies.



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09 Oct 2019, 3:02 am

By what you described, I wouldn't call her your friend.
She's your friend's friend.
You don't have to like all the friends of your friends. And she doesn't have to like you.


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09 Oct 2019, 11:09 am

magz wrote:
By what you described, I wouldn't call her your friend.
She's your friend's friend.
You don't have to like all the friends of your friends. And she doesn't have to like you.


^ This. Also, it's possible that while she doesn't dislike you, she's still uncomfortable around you and doesn't want to be alone with you because of this.



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10 Oct 2019, 4:48 am

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What I care about is the possibility of her pretending to be my friend.

She doesn't pretend to be your friend, her actions clearly say the opposite, she might have said it only with her words but words are meaningless, so you should take it with a grain of salt when someone says they are your friend.

Would you prefer it if she ignored you even while you both hang out with your common friend? That would be unfriendly and make all 3 of you uncomfortable actually, so she is trying to be friendly with you when you three are together because it's necessary. She isn't interested in your company but tolerates you because she likes to be around your common friend.

She doesn't care if you can't sit on your favourite seat, why should she? Normally people don't care about something like that. She doesn't appoint a seat as her seat either so she wouldn't care if you did such a thing. From her perspective it's more important whom she's sitting next to (or not sitting next to), not what particular chair she's sitting on or if it's 'your' chair.