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13 Feb 2020, 12:40 am

"Slaves of the Yuppies" mighty quite sounds like a B-movie horror film, doesn't it? But I'm actually trying to get somewhere with this. I feel, as someone with ASD in the food-service industry, that I am nothing more than but a slave to the corporate yuppies that run this cruel, selfish, hedonistic world we all live in. I feel like these neurotypes, who had neurotypical upbringings, have established that WE are the ones who could not make it. We are the menacing little trolls that frolic about, candidly, while the higher ups do all the boring stuff in their stiff, beige/black/or gray clothes and their leather briefcases. Maybe they are making a difference. Maybe they are. But maybe it's not a positive one.
And why do they have to treat others that aren't dressed in business apparel as lower than them? Why are we slaves to these preposterous yuppies?!?



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13 Feb 2020, 2:55 am

Generally, NTs seem to love hierarchy, status ladders, and AS people tend to the more egalitarian view that the value of a person resides in what he or she is as a human being, not in a job description.

Of course there will be exceptions in either tribe. Overall though, there is a lot of truth in difference conceptualisations of human value between AS and NT people.

Some NTs seem to think that what you do, or how much money or status you have is far more important than personal qualities, and that those materialist and hierarchal things automatically make them superior to others as human beings. NTs generally place particular value on status, power and money. AS people tend more to place value on values, on ideas, on talent for its own sake, and personal goals toward living a self actualised life.

Few of those wedded to the belief that "I am what I do and what I have" mindset can cope if they suddenly lose the status, or the money, or other external things they constructed their self worth with. I've seen this happen very close up. AS people are used to life being unfair, and have more experience in coping with adversity, because its what they have always had to do, to one extent or another.

No doubt there are some absolute materialists in the AS population, though I surmise that they are a negligble percentage, while the opposite may be true of the dominant majority.



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13 Feb 2020, 5:51 am

Princess Chelsea couldn't have said it any better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzjOabXl580



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13 Feb 2020, 12:12 pm

The yuppies are just the lowest ranking plutocrats, trying to rise, but they didn't invent the game.
Ma Nature does a lot of tinkering, and besides Aspies, she produces psychopaths. In tribal times, there would usually be at least one of each per village. The aspie would do the tech R&D, and the psycho would get extra management to keep them in line. However, if disaster struck, the psycho would seize power, and organize the survival of half the tribe, when an NT would have refused to abandon the weak, and lost almost everyone.
Once the R&D had discovered irrigation and grain farming, we had to get along in larger political units, because those who farmed quickly outnumbered those who did not. Concurrently, R&D found how to use clay to keep the mice out of the grain, and we began to stockpile surpluses against the thin years. The psychopaths found that by taking over the job of minding the grain, and managing their image through layers of authority, they could tickle our "crisis" response enough to stay in power.
The history of civilization is also the history of the psychopaths forming loose gangs, and treating the rest of us as stupid domestic animals who are not as ruthless as themselves. So, yes, you are a slave of the yuppies, but they are also low-ranking slaves, being selected according to their wiles. To win at their game, they have to cheat you at every opportunity.



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03 Jun 2020, 8:32 am

All the business need entrepreneur in their firm or factory.



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03 Jun 2020, 8:38 am

betty_ferret wrote:
... And why do they have to treat others that aren't dressed in business apparel as lower than them?
Because they are in charge, and you are not.
betty_ferret wrote:
Why are we slaves to these preposterous yuppies?
They cannot "enslave" you without your cooperation.  By that, I mean if you have not prepared yourself to take on a leadership role by earning a college degree and/or starting your own business, then the cause of your current situation has its roots squarely planted in your own lack of preparation.

Those who cannot lead shall either follow or fall by the wayside. Get used to it.


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03 Jun 2020, 10:44 am

Management exploits labor.

Yes- the managerial class is mostly neurotypical. But labor is also mostly neurotypical.

So most of the "slaves to the yuppies" are just as neurotypical as are the yuppies.



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03 Jun 2020, 10:52 am

Thank you, B19, for your considered and eloquent expression.


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03 Jun 2020, 11:15 am

Fnord wrote:
They cannot "enslave" you without your cooperation.  By that, I mean if you have not prepared yourself to take on a leadership role by earning a college degree and/or starting your own business, then the cause of your current situation has its roots squarely planted in your own lack of preparation.


Sadly, these days a college degree is not a key to a better job. It can easily become a ball and chain instead. I have also watched all the small business opportunities shrinking, and often turning into dead-end franchises. I used to do fine driving cab for thee nights a week. Now, a short gig as a full-time Uber driver can leave you broke but with a broken car, too.



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03 Jun 2020, 11:41 am

I feel much like we are Being slaves to our negativity.We actually don't have to be.You guys aren't I'm just saying that the nts mainly don't know how good they have it.They are throwing it all away by engaging in an overwelming brainwashing forceful form of negativity that forces everyone else into it.At the same time though its the choice of the individual basically and they mostly choose to protect instead of enjoying or making use of what they have.It's ridiculous! 2 negative nancy people on this website were spouting 'Its the end of the world and there will be war' this morning and it got to me and I started doing it too unfortunately because it scared the bejeebers out of me!I don't want this website to be mostly that kind of thing because of what nts do.



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03 Jun 2020, 12:52 pm

Dear_one wrote:
Fnord wrote:
They cannot "enslave" you without your cooperation.  By that, I mean if you have not prepared yourself to take on a leadership role by earning a college degree and/or starting your own business, then the cause of your current situation has its roots squarely planted in your own lack of preparation.
Sadly, these days a college degree is not a key to a better job. It can easily become a ball and chain instead...
If it's a HASS degree.  All of the people I know with STEM degrees either have jobs or are retired.


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