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It is not a BRAVE act or a gutsy one. Actually it is braver and gutsier to tough life out.

That's totally right of course but where do you come from with this statement?

Very well said Right Galaxy! love that! plus life is short anyway, sometimes we don't realise how precious life is until it's too late. We never know really when our time is up. Anything that feels or seems really bad at the time is temporary.

It's not about being brave or gutsy, it's about being done.

LOL why post this in Love and Dating?

Yes, thank you for posting this. I get tired of people projecting their own ideas about life onto others' decisions about suicide. It's self-centered.

Indeed.

I always found it interesting how preoccupied people can be with blaming and shaming those they don't understand - quite ironic to see it on this forum though.

Personally , and I think I could be reaching here, I don't think RightGalaxy wants an honest and frank talk about suicide , I think she's reaching out to a member here in the only way she can.

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Same. I find it selfish to insist others keep living because someone else will be upset. People are entitled to prioritize their own needs. If my situation is unbearable no one gets to insist I owe them continued suffering because they'll find my absence hard to cope with.

Maybe, but I'm sure there are better ways of supporting one person than making such invalidating generalisations about a bunch of others.

totally agree dude and I could be wrong - it wouldn't be the first time or the last

The thing that bothers me most about suicide is that someone dies.  The second is that they died for no good reason.*  The third is when one person leaves a note behind that says to another, "It's all your fault that I committed suicide!"

(*Exception: Quietly and comfortably ending one's own life instead of waiting for a painful, crippling, terminal disease to do it for you.)

suicides are, by and large, the result of running out of options for continued tenable living. what seems like an easily sensible thing for an un-troubled person to do, to a suicidal person seems insuperable, especially with no help or direct coaching. horatio alger did no good 'cept for horatio alger.

The pity is: most people who feel they “don’t have a future” actually do have a future

People who feel despair at 17 don’t know that things could get much better by 27.

There are people who have nothing at 31–yet they experienced the lap of luxury by 41.

One never knows.

I can say that I have never thought about suicide as a means of escape or anything like that. Yet I have been suicidal several times, to the point of holding a blade just above my wrist. Why? Because I truly thought that no matter what anyone said, all I was was a burden, just no one wanted to tell me because they didn’t want to be responsible for my death. I didn’t think I would be being selfish by ending my life - I truly, honestly thought continuing to live was the selfish thing.

Just thought I’d offer a little insight.

that is a major pity. some folk wait as long as they are able to wait, but can wait no longer. we each, as we make our way in the world day by day, are surrounded by folks in varying states of mental/psychological stability, some teetering on the edge, and since this is not advertised blatantly, most folk are oblivious to others' sufferings. even those sensitives who CAN sense this "quiet desperation" are often not educated about how to appropriately deal with these people, outside of timid avoidance. the real heroes are those who can see the suffering and can coax the suffering ones to accept help.

Guys I am pretty sure that this was meant to be towards a specific person or people as I've seen talk of suicide here myself and I'm pretty sure a lot of us feel it. I know I do, during a meltdown for sure. So this is their way of trying to reach out.
Dragonsanddemons i feel that every day. i won't say more as my picture is now right next to all my posts and u never want a random person you meet in real life to know these things.

i don't think family is honestly viewed as burden - except by wrongly-minded people, btw. it might have been said in the heat of the moment or out of real frustration... seems you have nice family members though.


Charles Dickens had a character called Mr (Charles) Jarndyce who was of the belief that nobody was a burden and knowing he was contributing to their comfort (or future) made his life pleasant and worth living.


That character was really good - the girl Esther in that was like you where she thought she was a hindrance but she was thoughtful and honourable like you are. (I say honourable because that was a double-edged sword where she didn't want to be helped because she felt she was being a burden.

She had self-hatred/ poor perception of herself throughout - and very timid - but it had to do with her upbringing - as well as her natural temperament -