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Patchy.Inc
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10 Aug 2020, 8:00 pm

Hello! I'm new here. I hope whoever is seeing this is having a good day!

I have questions, and more questions. And... Questions!

So, I was diagnosed with Autism when I was 2. Growing up, I began to get really into the Military, and I wanted to join as a Combat Medic. Right now, I'm turning 16, and I've began to question my diagnosis due to the fact that I don't fit the diagnosis criteria.
. I'm very social, and I'm known to be popular when it comes to music.
. I'm great at teamwork, and I love to do things with others.
. I can adapt fast to new routines and environments.
. I've taken multiple test made by psychologist online about . Aspergers/Autism, and I always test negative.
. I'm apart of JROTC, Police Cadets, and Chorus. I'm great at my positions and I take care of my teams.
. I've been on an IEP, but I plan on getting out next month. I'm in advanced placement, and I've been doing outstanding.
. I love social occasions, and I get along with almost everyone.
. In stressful social situations, I can handle it well, to what I've been told.

I have an issue, though. My parents think I have it due to a small lag when it came to language when I was growing up (I spoke when I was close to turning 3). But after that, I never had an issue after that.
When I turn 18, I want to fix this and finally join my dream job of becoming a Combat Medic!

But, I need your help. What should I do? I have 2 years left before I get my medical rights. How should I go with this? Who do I contact? I'm not in denial, because I KNOW this diagnosis is wrong.

Edit: (More evidence I'm not Autistic)
Taken the "Ritvo Autism Asperger Diagnostic Scale-Revised (RAADS-R)" and scored neurotypical
Taken the "Childhood Autism Test" and scored neurotypical
A couple other test here and there... Same answer.



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10 Aug 2020, 8:15 pm

You can ask for a second diagnosis. if the doctor does not think you have ASD, then you don't.

How does having an autism diagnosis prevent you from becoming a medic? You do not have to disclose your diagnosis as far as I know. Background checks usually refer to court ordered treatment and for specific conditions and behaviors, none of which are ASD. And ASD should not disqualify you from a position.



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10 Aug 2020, 8:20 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
You can ask for a second diagnosis. if the doctor does not think you have ASD, then you don't.

How does having an autism diagnosis prevent you from becoming a medic? You do not have to disclose your diagnosis as far as I know. Background checks usually refer to court ordered treatment and for specific conditions and behaviors, none of which are ASD. And ASD should not disqualify you from a position.


Well, this does disqualify me due to the fact that this is the Army. And, if I don't tell them (they usually find out who's lying once they get to their duty station), I can get hit with a fraudulent enlistment charge (aka a felony)! (Uh oh!)
So, I plan on getting rid of the diagnosis before enlistment so I don't have to worry about it



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10 Aug 2020, 8:45 pm

I know you are looking for information on how to go about getting rid of your diagnosis, I don't know how to do that, but I would suggest talking to a professional psychologist or psychiatrist as I believe that is how someone is diagnosed/tested in the first place. If I'm incorrect on that someone please correct me. Thanks!

First I'd like to applaud you for your desire to join the Military as a Combat Medic. That's a very admirable decision. Although I disagree with the reasons you used for why you think you're not Autistic. I'm sure you have heard this a million times, but Autism is a spectrum. We aren't all alike. There is a stereotype of people with Autism being antisocial and unable to operate well with others or under pressure, but it isn't always true. I personally am social and enjoy talking with my friends and making new ones. I am also popular with people among whom I share interests, and I work well with others. I typically work best under pressure, and I am very adaptable to environments and routines. I am still Autistic though. You might not have Autism, especially if it was a diagnosis solely based on your lack of speech until the age of three. I would strongly suggest obtaining your original diagnosis paperwork, it should include notes on what exact behaviours you exhibited that they viewed as fitting with the diagnosis of Autism. Asperger's is no longer an official term I believe, but if you do have Autism I'm guessing you would be in the high-functioning range that used to fall under that term. In general, online tests aren't reliable because you are essentially assessing yourself, it's really important to talk to a professional in person.

No matter what happens, talk to a professional and also get your official diagnosis paperwork, if you do that, most of your questions will be answered. You might even get un-diagnosed if that's possible. Although, Autistic individuals can join the military as long as they are able to perform their duties, so that shouldn't be an issue.

I hope your family is supportive in your journey and you succeed as a Combat Medic.



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10 Aug 2020, 10:06 pm

EverViolet116 wrote:
I know you are looking for information on how to go about getting rid of your diagnosis, I don't know how to do that, but I would suggest talking to a professional psychologist or psychiatrist as I believe that is how someone is diagnosed/tested in the first place. If I'm incorrect on that someone please correct me. Thanks!

First I'd like to applaud you for your desire to join the Military as a Combat Medic. That's a very admirable decision. Although I disagree with the reasons you used for why you think you're not Autistic. I'm sure you have heard this a million times, but Autism is a spectrum. We aren't all alike. There is a stereotype of people with Autism being antisocial and unable to operate well with others or under pressure, but it isn't always true. I personally am social and enjoy talking with my friends and making new ones. I am also popular with people among whom I share interests, and I work well with others. I typically work best under pressure, and I am very adaptable to environments and routines. I am still Autistic though. You might not have Autism, especially if it was a diagnosis solely based on your lack of speech until the age of three. I would strongly suggest obtaining your original diagnosis paperwork, it should include notes on what exact behaviours you exhibited that they viewed as fitting with the diagnosis of Autism. Asperger's is no longer an official term I believe, but if you do have Autism I'm guessing you would be in the high-functioning range that used to fall under that term. In general, online tests aren't reliable because you are essentially assessing yourself, it's really important to talk to a professional in person.

No matter what happens, talk to a professional and also get your official diagnosis paperwork, if you do that, most of your questions will be answered. You might even get un-diagnosed if that's possible. Although, Autistic individuals can join the military as long as they are able to perform their duties, so that shouldn't be an issue.

I hope your family is supportive in your journey and you succeed as a Combat Medic.


Thank you for the information! What if I'm not able to get my hands on these files? What then?



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10 Aug 2020, 10:37 pm

Patchy.Inc wrote:
EverViolet116 wrote:
I know you are looking for information on how to go about getting rid of your diagnosis, I don't know how to do that, but I would suggest talking to a professional psychologist or psychiatrist as I believe that is how someone is diagnosed/tested in the first place. If I'm incorrect on that someone please correct me. Thanks!

First I'd like to applaud you for your desire to join the Military as a Combat Medic. That's a very admirable decision. Although I disagree with the reasons you used for why you think you're not Autistic. I'm sure you have heard this a million times, but Autism is a spectrum. We aren't all alike. There is a stereotype of people with Autism being antisocial and unable to operate well with others or under pressure, but it isn't always true. I personally am social and enjoy talking with my friends and making new ones. I am also popular with people among whom I share interests, and I work well with others. I typically work best under pressure, and I am very adaptable to environments and routines. I am still Autistic though. You might not have Autism, especially if it was a diagnosis solely based on your lack of speech until the age of three. I would strongly suggest obtaining your original diagnosis paperwork, it should include notes on what exact behaviours you exhibited that they viewed as fitting with the diagnosis of Autism. Asperger's is no longer an official term I believe, but if you do have Autism I'm guessing you would be in the high-functioning range that used to fall under that term. In general, online tests aren't reliable because you are essentially assessing yourself, it's really important to talk to a professional in person.

No matter what happens, talk to a professional and also get your official diagnosis paperwork, if you do that, most of your questions will be answered. You might even get un-diagnosed if that's possible. Although, Autistic individuals can join the military as long as they are able to perform their duties, so that shouldn't be an issue.

I hope your family is supportive in your journey and you succeed as a Combat Medic.


Thank you for the information! What if I'm not able to get my hands on these files? What then?


As long as your parents help you, you can can get them from wherever you were diagnosed. For instance I was diagnosed at a therapy center for children so I went to them and requested a copy of my file. You will need the files to get disability accomodations in college so if you are considering doing a hybrid of military and college your parents would have to request them eventually anyway. This means that, even if they disagree with your desire to get rid of your diagnosis, you still have a chance of getting them to help. You might even be able to do it on your own. (Military+College is actually really cool, they help you pay for your education and then you have a degree if you retire from your military career plus you can start it in high school, just make sure to disclose that you have been diagnosed with high functioning Autism)

It's interesting to read that information, very eye-opening. At least for me. That being said, if for some reason you are unable to obtain the files, try to find out from your parents exactly what the doctor said about your behaviour (other than the lack of speech). It's not strictly necessary to know this information, but it is helpful in gaining a fuller picture of why you were diagnosed with Autism. Most importantly set up an appointment with a professional who, idealy, is experienced with Autism to see about your diagnosis. He/she may be able to shed light on why you have the diagnosis, or they might agree with you and get you started on the path to getting rid of it. I'm pretty sure this process is expensive, so save up some money, just in case.

Once again, I don't know much about this so if anyone knows better, please correct me.



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10 Aug 2020, 10:44 pm

You might have just had Apraxia of Speech if the only reason you were diagnosed was your speech issues.



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10 Aug 2020, 11:21 pm

Just out of curiosity is it mandatory to disclose a diagnosis to the military or police if you are a new recruit/cadet?

It seems to be a grey area as to how an organisation i) processes a diagnosis and ii) whether there's a penalty for not disclosing?



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10 Aug 2020, 11:57 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Just out of curiosity is it mandatory to disclose a diagnosis to the military or police if you are a new recruit/cadet?

It seems to be a grey area as to how an organisation i) processes a diagnosis and ii) whether there's a penalty for not disclosing?

It is absolutely mandatory to disclose it. You might get away with not telling them, but they might find out.
It's fraud, really.



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11 Aug 2020, 1:47 am

Patchy.Inc wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Just out of curiosity is it mandatory to disclose a diagnosis to the military or police if you are a new recruit/cadet?

It seems to be a grey area as to how an organisation i) processes a diagnosis and ii) whether there's a penalty for not disclosing?

It is absolutely mandatory to disclose it. You might get away with not telling them, but they might find out.
It's fraud, really.


Is it ever used as a reason for not recruiting?



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11 Aug 2020, 1:54 am

It’s “fraud”—but it’s not a “felony.”

The “punishment” is a discharge before basic training. It wouldn’t be dishonorable or honorable because you were “separated” before you finished basic training. The same thing as being physically out of shape. Or being worse than Gomer Pyle.

Good luck on getting rid of that diagnosis!



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11 Aug 2020, 2:38 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It’s “fraud”—but it’s not a “felony.”

The “punishment” is a discharge before basic training. It wouldn’t be dishonorable or honorable because you were “separated” before you finished basic training. The same thing as being physically out of shape. Or being worse than Gomer Pyle.

Good luck on getting rid of that diagnosis!


That's a bit harsh if it doesn't interfere with your performance as a soldier or police officer....



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11 Aug 2020, 7:31 am

Did I say that I AGREE with this?

Forrest Gump was a consummate soldier.



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