Question about Autism and criminal statistics

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I went to this website https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17615427/


This website states that people with milder forms of Autism are more likely to be convicted of crimes than people with moderate, severe to profound forms of developmental disorders.


It states that 9% of people with moderate, severe to profound forms of developmental disorders have been convicted.

They then state 86% people with Atypical Autism have been convicted.

Then they state that 114% people with Asperger's Syndrome have been convicted and that the percentages were 8.1% and 18.4%, respectively. The corresponding rate of convictions in the comparison groups was 18.9%, 14.7%, and 19.6% respectively. Particular attention is given to arson in Asperger's syndrome (p= .0009).



I am confused, are people like me with mild forms of Autism less likely to be victims and much more likely to commit crimes than people with moderate, sever and profound forms of developmental disorders?


It feels logical to say that most people with moderate to severe and profound developmental disorders are more likely to be victims of crimes than commit them, because people with severe to profound forms of developmental disorders have learning disorders and lower cognitive functioning that might prevent from take caring of themselves.


But people who are high-functioning and the general population are more likely to commit crimes.



I feel confused, the statistics states that people with Autism are more likely to be victims of crimes than commit them, but they don't state what type of people with developmental disorders are more likely to be victims.

My thought is that most people who are lower-functioning are more likely to be victims of crimes than commit them.

You've done a thread about this before.

I am sorry. I don't remember, I think that was a different question that I asked.

Let me check.

I think it is my first time asking this question.

I don't recall asking this question before.

I copied and pasted it here:

The prevalence and pattern of criminal behaviour in a population of 313 former child psychiatric in-patients with pervasive developmental disorders were studied. The patients were divided into three subgroups and compared with 933 matched controls from the general population. Age at follow-up was between 25 years and 59 years. An account of convictions in the nationwide Danish Register of Criminality was used as a measure of criminal behaviour. Among 113 cases with childhood autism, .9% had been convicted. In atypical autism (n=86) and Asperger's syndrome (n=114) the percentages were 8.1% and 18.4%, respectively. The corresponding rate of convictions in the comparison groups was 18.9%, 14.7%, and 19.6% respectively. Particular attention is given to arson in Asperger's syndrome (p= .0009).

It doesnt quit say what you thought it said.

It doesnt say that "nine percent of those with childhood autism were convicted".

It says "point nine percent" got busted by the cops.

Nine percent is roughly one person in eleven. Point nine percent is one person in 110.

They said that the sample size of aspies was 114 individuals. Not that "114 percent got convicted". One hundred percent is the entire group. So you cant have 114 percent of a group getting convicted.

Childhood autism had a sample size of 113, and they say .9 percent got "convicted". Apparently out of that 113 exactly ONE person got busted (one is point nine percent of 113).

86 folks of the "atypical autism category" were monitored and 8.1 got convicted of crimes. Like seven people.

Of the 114 with aspergers 18.4 percent got convicted (like 15?).

But each group had a separate "control group" to compare it to of the general (mostly NT) population. And the control groups were pretty similar to the aspies, but worse than either the severes or the atypicals. So if you're an aspie your just as likely to be busted as a NT, but if you're more severely autistic you're not likely to go delinquent.

This thread is a similar topic to this one.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=390952

I am sorry for asking the same question again. I remember now.

Thank you!

I am also very bad at math.

I can't calculate like you. I just read it fast and tend to take their numbers too literally.

I also have hard time understanding what are points used before the number.

I suck at maths too.

I wish somebody would talk to folks who work with people with autism. Ask them the "prevalence of criminality" amongst those with whom they work. I bet it would be quite low---especially for those on the "lower end" of the Spectrum.

It's bullcrap to state that people with autism are more likely to commit crimes than non-autistic people.

I was not saying that. I thought that people with milder forms of developmental disorders and the general population are more likely to commit crimes than people with moderate, severe to profound forms of developmental disorders.


Most people with developmental disorders are more likely to be victims of crimes than commit them.


I was thinking that most people with who are lower-functioning are more likely to be victims of crimes than commit them, compare to people who are higher-functioning.

Another problem is that there are people who don't have Autism, but they can other developmental disorders.


I think the correct term to used it is this "Most people with developmental disorders, mental disorders or both are more likely to be victims of crimes than commit them, compare to people who are not diagnosed with any mental health or developmental disorders yet".


The third problem is that there are people who have mental health, developmental disorders or both that are were diagnosed later in life or was never diagnosed at all