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31 Oct 2020, 12:25 pm

So now they reckon there's never going to be a vaccine that's going to work effectively. That is going to make life completely dull and not worth living.

We may never be able to go abroad on vacation again.

We may never have social gatherings again in our lives.

Kids may never go to school again.

Every town will become ghost towns and we may lose our communities.

Museums, gyms, and other life fulfillment services may never open again.

You may never be able to see your relatives that live out of your local area again, except on a screen.

Nobody will be able to go out to work and earn a living, unless you are able to work from home.

Mental illness and crimes will rise. Loneliness will become an issue.

Everybody will have to rely on doing everything online.
No more freedom.

Babies that are born today will have to grow up in this.

I am 30 years old and my life is over. There's so many things I want to do in my life and I can't do them now. No-one can. There are places I wanted to visit. I want to be promoted in my job someday but instead I could lose my job because of this f*****g pandemic.

For the rest of our lives we have to hide away from a virus that kills 0.1% of people. 1% of people are born with autism. So you are more likely to have autism than die from COVID. And yet the world has shut down.

It's so f*****g absurd. Words cannot describe how livid I am. Please, oh PLEASE let there be riots in London over this. We are NOT going to be dictated for the rest of our lives unless there is a disease that kills 50% of people. f**k communism. It's all a dictatorship. Over. A. Virus. That. Kills. 0.1%. Of...
f*****g hell the world's gone f*****g mad.


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31 Oct 2020, 12:36 pm

Now you are catching on!

So what is the big cover up? What is the virus distraction hiding?



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31 Oct 2020, 1:02 pm

No one would deny that we’re living in difficult, challenging times. But, to encourage riots when we knew that bleak times would be inevitable in times ahead ... Better to work together and keep a spirit of community and caring alive. I realise you’re likely reacting to what many of us living here in the UK are currently watching and waiting on ... Boris once again addressing the nation on the latest 4 week nationwide lockdown. Conspiracy theories help no-one but those who wish to take control of the narrative. In other words, people who feel they have no control, are attempting to take control for themselves, regardless of the reality.



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31 Oct 2020, 1:27 pm

But this is the end. This is life from now on. One minute they sound optimistic that the vaccine will be ready halfway through next year, which if it was for definite then I would be more patient about the lockdown and just ride it out. But then they're saying that we may never have a vaccine or any vaccine they do manage to conjure up will be futile. So if that's going to be the case then that means there will be lockdowns until the sun dies out (couple of billion years perhaps?) So basically there will be nothing to look forward to. Humans are going to become like apes again, where we won't know how to verbally socialise or run a political society. That, or we will become screen slaves and will be forced to live our lives online. That may sound brilliant for 16-year-old youths who were brought up with advanced technology and the internet, but the rest of us don't want life to come to that.

I am so depressed right now. Even my boyfriend is mad about this lockdown, and he's in high risk group.

I actually know the answer to the problem. I know the best fix. I just wish the government would come up with it too.


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31 Oct 2020, 3:29 pm

Frankly, this is reality.
The face-to-face human contacts we all need are not going to happen for many of us for some time.
We all want a vaccine; there is NO guarantee of one this year or the next.
That means that the frustrating rules and limitations that nurses, doctors, ALL employees in surgical departments and clinics live with 8 to 10 hours a day now apply to us.
No weddings, no birthday parties, many funerals have been postponed!
There is no.
Herd.
Immunity.
This virus causes antibodies to be created, but the antibodies do not protect from re-infection.
It is overwhelming, but this is our new world reality.
Everyone is afraid and lonely.
We can try to care about and encourage and educate each other.
We all understand each other’s feelings and finally CAN see through one another’s eyes!
If all we can do is express our sincere feelings over the Internet or the phone, then that is one thing we can do!


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31 Oct 2020, 3:39 pm

I feel more optimistic because not only are several vaccines being developed, there are also lots of treatments as well. It seems as if hospitals are already figuring out ways to prevent people from dying. The amount of things being made are overwhelming! Surely, something’s gotta work, right?

Was there some article you saw that made you feel this way? Was it something some government official in the U.K. said recently?


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31 Oct 2020, 3:54 pm

i wish i was one of those super rich folk who have built super cool fall out shelters that give them a luxury
lifestyle even if there is a 3rd world war....

no one knows what the future has in store
hopefully they will curb the pandemic with their stringent measures...

try and think positive....



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31 Oct 2020, 4:31 pm

If there is no vaccine people will continue getting sick until enough people have gotten sick that the disease can no longer infect enough people to sustain itself. Just like every plague that has ever affected humanity.

All this delaying the inevitable will look pretty silly then.


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31 Oct 2020, 8:59 pm

CubsBullsBears wrote:
I feel more optimistic because not only are several vaccines being developed, there are also lots of treatments as well. It seems as if hospitals are already figuring out ways to prevent people from dying. The amount of things being made are overwhelming! Surely, something’s gotta work, right?

Was there some article you saw that made you feel this way? Was it something some government official in the U.K. said recently?


I see someone mention it in the emergence of a deadly COVID thread in the news and current events here. It said something like the UK health organisation reckons there will never be a vaccine to rid of this pandemic. It just threw me into a panic. It seems that some people here just says these things lightly like it's no big deal, but it is a big deal.

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I feel more optimistic because not only are several vaccines being developed, there are also lots of treatments as well. It seems as if hospitals are already figuring out ways to prevent people from dying. The amount of things being made are overwhelming! Surely, something’s gotta work, right?


I'm hoping you are right. There can't be a vaccine for every disease out there. Surely there are some diseases that are managed by treatment to lessen symptoms or to treat it or whatever, instead of a vaccine. That's better than nothing, right?

All this advanced medical knowledge and technology we have these days and they still don't know how to at least treat a coronavirus, other than dictatorship and economy-destroying lockdowns. :roll:

I have the answer here. Hear me out on this one.
If I was running this country, I would try to make it as fair as possible for everyone. There is a way to save lives AND save the economy. All you need to do is tell those in high risk groups to social distance as much as they can if they are retired, too ill/disabled to work or are unemployed for whatever other reason, and open up new vacancies to get food and stuff delivered to these people's homes. And those that do have jobs but are in high risk group could be furloughed or if not then given some sort of other financial support to protect them but let them choose (most high risk people are scared of the virus so will probably agree to it). Most people that are in high risk groups are mostly capable of restricting themselves - and those that are incapable of understanding the pandemic are usually in care and all care homes/services would obviously take safeguarding measures to protect the vulnerable.
And as for the rest of us, we need to be the ones that can keep the economy going. Yes the virus is a risk for everyone but most younger people are at a much lower risk of dying from it (so many people have survived and recovered from it). Obviously still practise social distance, make everyone wear masks and wash their hands, etc.

That is the only way to do it. Shutting down the whole country and isolating everybody and letting the economy just collapse in front of our eyes is not the right way, and it's going to cause lots of other health problems and deaths. The trick is to meet in the middle. I'm all for protecting the vulnerable but at the same time I'm worrying about the economy. And more people are against lockdown this time than they were back in the spring. And the suicide rates have doubled. Now has anybody thought about that? No.


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31 Oct 2020, 9:04 pm

i am not afraid of death by any means but i am afraid of permanent lifelong disability. covid can do both.



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31 Oct 2020, 9:16 pm

it will only last until 2022 or so

look at all the other viruses before they only lasted 2 years. no virus pandemic lasts forever



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31 Oct 2020, 9:42 pm

Yes the last world wide pandemic caused by the Spanish flu there was no vaccine in 1918 but it largely vanished by 1920. So precisely 2 years.

This is why extreme lockdowns are an over-reaction. Earlier travel bans on China would have solved 99% of the current problems and the Chinese government is complicit in this and should be punished.



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31 Oct 2020, 10:10 pm

I’m not saying goodbye to my freedom.

I hate this COVID thing—but I do believe we will have a vaccine, and that things will get better next year.

Rioting in the streets will solve nothing.



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31 Oct 2020, 10:36 pm

Rioting is just a good way to spread the virus



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31 Oct 2020, 10:42 pm

Joe90 wrote:
So now they reckon there's never going to be a vaccine that's going to work effectively. That is going to make life completely dull and not worth living.

We may never be able to go abroad on vacation again.

We may never have social gatherings again in our lives.

Kids may never go to school again.

Every town will become ghost towns and we may lose our communities.

Museums, gyms, and other life fulfillment services may never open again.

You may never be able to see your relatives that live out of your local area again, except on a screen.

Nobody will be able to go out to work and earn a living, unless you are able to work from home.

Mental illness and crimes will rise. Loneliness will become an issue.

Everybody will have to rely on doing everything online.
No more freedom.

Babies that are born today will have to grow up in this.

I am 30 years old and my life is over. There's so many things I want to do in my life and I can't do them now. No-one can. There are places I wanted to visit. I want to be promoted in my job someday but instead I could lose my job because of this f*****g pandemic.

For the rest of our lives we have to hide away from a virus that kills 0.1% of people. 1% of people are born with autism. So you are more likely to have autism than die from COVID. And yet the world has shut down.

It's so f*****g absurd. Words cannot describe how livid I am. Please, oh PLEASE let there be riots in London over this. We are NOT going to be dictated for the rest of our lives unless there is a disease that kills 50% of people. f**k communism. It's all a dictatorship. Over. A. Virus. That. Kills. 0.1%. Of...
f*****g hell the world's gone f*****g mad.


Yes.



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31 Oct 2020, 10:45 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Yes the last world wide pandemic caused by the Spanish flu there was no vaccine in 1918 but it largely vanished by 1920. So precisely 2 years.

This is why extreme lockdowns are an over-reaction. Earlier travel bans on Kh*na would have solved 99% of the current problems and the Kh*nese government is complicit in this and should be punished.


Yes