TAFE College students with autism survey - disappointed

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10 Nov 2020, 5:41 am

I only just noticed this news announcement on my StudentWeb homepage. It's 6 days old but I have been kind of busy.

"TAFE College & AUTISM REPORT JOINT SURVEY - Wednesday, 4 November 2020, 3:45 PM

(Bla bla).. a survey to hear about the experiences of Autistic students in .. TAFE Institutes.
This survey comes ahead of an inquiry heard by the (local area) Parliament into access to TAFE for Students with Disability that aims to make TAFE programs in (local area) more inclusive.. bla bla.

Please complete the survey by Wednesday 4 November 2020."


I would have liked to have done the survey, but darn it! I missed the 8 hour window.

To me this self demonstrates perfectly the trouble autistics have trying to cope with the demands of this current world, by something that was supposedly designed to help. The irony, no joke.
Or is it just me??



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10 Nov 2020, 3:06 pm

An 8-hour long time window for completing a survey suggests a poorly designed data collection process.

The details you've given don't indicate anything about struggling with autism.



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10 Nov 2020, 3:41 pm

↑↑ Once you accept the fact that such surveys are intended only to meet the minimum requirements for a passing grade in a psychology or sociology class, and not to provide any credible data for autism research, you will feel less regret for missing the deadline.


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10 Nov 2020, 7:58 pm

Fnord wrote:
↑↑ Once you accept the fact that such surveys are intended only to meet the minimum requirements for a passing grade in a psychology or sociology class, and not to provide any credible data for autism research, you will feel less regret for missing the deadline.

Maybe I'm overlooking something important but the Victoria, Australia, government doesn't sound like just some students,
https://www.education.vic.gov.au/traini ... fault.aspx

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10 Nov 2020, 8:04 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
Fnord wrote:
↑↑ Once you accept the fact that such surveys are intended only to meet the minimum requirements for a passing grade in a psychology or sociology class, and not to provide any credible data for autism research, you will feel less regret for missing the deadline.
Maybe I'm overlooking something important but the Victoria, Australia, government doesn't sound like just some students...]
In that case, it seems likely that someone posted the survey mainly to justify his or her continued employment.  That could explain some of the weird decisions made by that Australian government.  I would not worry about missing the window.


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10 Nov 2020, 8:07 pm

Fnord wrote:
↑↑ Once you accept the fact that such surveys are intended only to meet the minimum requirements for a passing grade in a psychology or sociology class, and not to provide any credible data for autism research, you will feel less regret for missing the deadline.


Yeah, totally NOT just a bunch of students going for the minimum,
https://www.ncver.edu.au/research-and-s ... -australia

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Technical and Further Education (or TAFE) is the largest provider of post-secondary education in Australia. TAFE systems are administered by eight different State and Territory authorities of widely varying size and character.

TAFE systems have a number of characteristics which distinguish them from other sectors of education. An important feature is the geographical spread of TAFE institutes, with eighty-four institutes operating over 300 campuses around Australia. TAFE also offers an extremely wide range of courses which provide education and training for employment at the operative, trade and paraprofessional level, as well as general education and literacy programs. A major difference between TAFE and higher education institutions is the diversity of course durations, which range from a few hours for refresher courses to two or three years for associate diploma and diploma courses and, consequently, the wide range of credentials which includes statements of attainment, certificates, diplomas and advanced diplomas.

Another characteristic of TAFE is the variety of attendance patterns. Unlike higher education and schools which have large full-time student populations, the majority of TAFE students attend part time or study externally, combining work and study. Part-time attendance can include attendance either during the day or in the evening, by block release or through distance education. Attendance can be full time for all or part of a year or for several days or hours per week. Increasingly, TAFE is looking at taking courses to the student either through use of technology or providing programs at the workplace.

Unlike universities, which are autonomous institutions, most TAFE systems originated and developed as parts of government departments. This has meant that as well as being educational institutions, they have had to operate within a public administration framework. As a result, over the past twenty years, TAFE has been expected to implement both Commonwealth Government and State Government economic, social justice and education policies.


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10 Nov 2020, 8:10 pm

Because I received my diagnoses through a local university Psychology Department, hardly a week goes by that I do not receive some student's request to participate in another survey or study involving diagnosed autistic adults.  I hope you will all eventually forgive my cynicism, as well as the assumptions I have made.


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