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01 Dec 2020, 12:55 pm

In case you don't know, Lucozade is an energy drink popular in the UK. I used to drink it all the time when I was a teenager and I can't seem to remember if it made me insomnic or not. I don't usually drink it these days but I do love the taste. But anyway, I treated myself to a bottle on Sunday morning and ever since then I've not been sleeping right at night.
I've even took a sleeping pill but for the first time ever it didn't work. I switched the radiator off in the bedroom to make the room cold because I can sleep better if I'm cold, but I'm still hot during the night like my body temperature just won't cool down, even though I'm cold all day if I don't put radiators on. :roll:
Caffeine doesn't have this effect on me at all but Lucozade does, so it looks like I won't be able to drink Lucozade any more. But it seems to be taking 2 days or more to get out of my system.
After a bad night I'm not even affected by lack of sleep at all, I'm up early after 2 or 3 hours of very light sleep, ready to go.

I just want my sleep back. How come Lucozade never did this to me before? I hate insomnia, I just want to be able to sleep at least 6 hours a night like I normally do. :cry:


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01 Dec 2020, 12:58 pm

I find that if my sugar levels are too high I have difficulty both getting to sleep and waking up the next morning.

No idea if you are having part of the same issue.



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01 Dec 2020, 1:38 pm

Our metabolisms change as we get older so things we used to have all the time can now cause us problems. Apparently tho you did react badly to it since I assume that was the only thing out of the ordinary that you've had lately.

Either that or the makers could have changed the ingredients from what they used to be such that now they affect you badly.

Bottom line, sounds like this Lucozade in now on your Bad List. (Don't have a Bad List? I think its time to start one.)


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01 Dec 2020, 3:01 pm

NeilM wrote:
Our metabolisms change as we get older so things we used to have all the time can now cause us problems. Apparently tho you did react badly to it since I assume that was the only thing out of the ordinary that you've had lately.

Either that or the makers could have changed the ingredients from what they used to be such that now they affect you badly.

Bottom line, sounds like this Lucozade in now on your Bad List. (Don't have a Bad List? I think its time to start one.)


I do have a small 'bad list'. Sugar free mints have always been number 1 on the bad list as they not only give me diarrhoea but also nausea and dehydration. So I haven't touched sugar free mints since I was like 10.
I love Lucozade though. It's got less calories than most other flavoured carbonated drinks even though it tastes so nice. Maybe if I only have a small amount it might not affect my sleep so much? I did drink a whole bottle the other day.


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01 Dec 2020, 3:07 pm

Joe90 wrote:
NeilM wrote:
Our metabolisms change as we get older so things we used to have all the time can now cause us problems. Apparently tho you did react badly to it since I assume that was the only thing out of the ordinary that you've had lately.

Either that or the makers could have changed the ingredients from what they used to be such that now they affect you badly.

Bottom line, sounds like this Lucozade in now on your Bad List. (Don't have a Bad List? I think its time to start one.)


I do have a small 'bad list'. Sugar free mints have always been number 1 on the bad list as they not only give me diarrhoea but also nausea and dehydration. So I haven't touched sugar free mints since I was like 10.
I love Lucozade though. It's got less calories than most other flavoured carbonated drinks even though it tastes so nice. Maybe if I only have a small amount it might not affect my sleep so much? I did drink a whole bottle the other day.


The diarrhoea would've been caused by one of the ingredients in mints, sorbitol, which is a laxative no less.



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05 Dec 2020, 12:18 am

I'm not sure it was the energy drink that caused insomnia, as I'm still having sleep problems nearly a week later. I sleep for about an hour or so then I wake up. Also my body temperature keeps changing throughout the night, I go to sleep freezing cold and wake up sweating hot. I read there's no cure for insomnia, just home remedies like lifestyle and routine. But I find it hard to rigidly stick to a routine at bedtime. If this carries on for another week I am thinking of phoning the doctors and asking if I can have a weeks course of sleep medication, just to reset my body clock back to normal. Getting myself to follow a rigid bedtime routine ain't going to happen. I don't do rigid routines (ADHD here).

My sleep patterns aren't perfect but this is really bad. Normally I sleep around 6-8 hours a night, sometimes waking up once or twice but not being wide awake. But this week I've just been wide awake and restless, and my pillows seem uncomfortable even though they're actually not. The only time I seem relaxed is the morning when I should be getting up. But I did actually get up early a couple of days this week to make the day longer so that I can be tired later, but it didn't seem to make any difference.

I just want to sleep. Why does insomnia have to exist? Like never having an appetite or something. Such an inconvenience and shouldn't be a thing.


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06 Dec 2020, 10:00 am

Let me ask a few questions. These may seem out there but they refer to things that I have experienced keeping me from sleeping.

Have you switched to synthetic material for pajamas or sheets/blankets? My covers have to be cotton as well as pjs if I wear any.

Could you have too heavy covering? As with outdoor exercise in the winter, layers are the better way to go. That way its easier to add or subtract the right amount. Its easy to shed a layer but by the same token, keep a couple options nearby in case you wake up cold. If you have to go to another room and search for more, you are wide awake then.

Are you willing to not eat red meat? I get insomnia and low grade fever after eating beef or pork.

Is your bedroom completely dark? Perhaps there is a new light source nearby that is streaming into your bedroom.

Are you eating strawberries or anything containing them? I saw where some varieties of Lucozade contain strawberries.

Are you eating a new kind of bread? Some breads have kept me awake.

These are all I can think of right now. If I have more I will post them. Hopefully one of these you can answer yes to and will let you make some progress. Mind you, it can take a few nights to a week to see results.


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06 Dec 2020, 10:27 am

I don't know if it causes insomnia but I would imagine it would stop people from sleeping.
I can't touch it because it has aftificial sweetners so my throat will start closing up.



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06 Dec 2020, 10:56 am

If I'm too warm overnight and can't cool down, it's because my blood sugar levels are high (I have Type 1 Diabetes, which is the early onset, auto-immune version of diabetes).

It is possible you're borderline, that might also explain why you get dehydrated easily, and why sugary caffeinated drinks have such a profound effect. Lucozade has been changed recently because of the UK "sugar tax" so it contains less sugar than previously, but I daresay that's been replaced with chemicals that don't aid sleep either.

It might be worth trying a relatively low sugar, low carb diet for a couple of weeks to see how that makes you feel.

Do you feel thirsty and dry-mouthed a lot? I appreciate if you're on meds they can cause that anyway.



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06 Dec 2020, 11:17 am

Redd_Kross wrote:
If I'm too warm overnight and can't cool down, it's because my blood sugar levels are high (I have Type 1 Diabetes, which is the early onset, auto-immune version of diabetes).

It is possible you're borderline, that might also explain why you get dehydrated easily, and why sugary caffeinated drinks have such a profound effect. Lucozade has been changed recently because of the UK "sugar tax" so it contains less sugar than previously, but I daresay that's been replaced with chemicals that don't aid sleep either.

It might be worth trying a relatively low sugar, low carb diet for a couple of weeks to see how that makes you feel.

Do you feel thirsty and dry-mouthed a lot? I appreciate if you're on meds they can cause that anyway.


Lucozade has had artificial sweetners in it at least 10 years prior to the sugar tax as I have had to stay clear of all drinks containing artificial sweetners.
When the sugar tax came in I assumed I could still have access to drinks, but today I even have to be careful of water as many are now artificially sweetened, and many drinks that were safe for me now are not. Ribena I now can't touch as even that (I am NOT talking about Ribena Lite) has artificial sweetner.
The problem is that if I do have something by accident I am in trouble because my whole body is in stress, and I can no longer read smallprint so I am more likely to repeat dose myself with artificial sweetners.
Cakes, baked beans, some biscuits, and even some pies etc now contain artificial sweetners. To make things worse, they keep changing the names to these artificial sweetners to hide them from public so people will buy their products making life dangerous for those who react to them.
My Mum bought sugar to find when we started drinking something, that the sugar was a cleverly marketed artificially sweetened sugar like product.
Since the sugar tax the only things I can drink now that I get on with are Pepsi, Coco Cola (Only the Coco Cola brand) and pure water. I can't touch tap water as chlorine effects me and I have to limit how often I wash and bath. Some mornings we get chlorine gas coming out the taps for about 20 seconds which gives a horrible smell and leaves me running for the bathroom windows so I can breath.



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06 Dec 2020, 6:09 pm

Redd_Kross wrote:
If I'm too warm overnight and can't cool down, it's because my blood sugar levels are high (I have Type 1 Diabetes, which is the early onset, auto-immune version of diabetes).

It is possible you're borderline, that might also explain why you get dehydrated easily, and why sugary caffeinated drinks have such a profound effect. Lucozade has been changed recently because of the UK "sugar tax" so it contains less sugar than previously, but I daresay that's been replaced with chemicals that don't aid sleep either.

It might be worth trying a relatively low sugar, low carb diet for a couple of weeks to see how that makes you feel.

Do you feel thirsty and dry-mouthed a lot? I appreciate if you're on meds they can cause that anyway.


I've been tested for all diabetes types and all are negative. Diabetes always seems to be the only answer I get here whenever I make a thread about some sort of health problem. :? I don't have diabetes.

Did I say I get dehydrated a lot?
I don't get dehydrated, in other words my hydration levels are normal. I know when I'm thirsty so I go and have a drink (juice normally, as I don't like plain water). If I haven't had a drink lately I don't suffer ill effects.
And I don't have alexithemia or whatever it's called, so I do know what thirst and dehydration feels like.


I sleep naked, whether the night is hot or cold. I don't wake up cold. In fact my body temperature actually rises when I'm asleep. I actually prefer to be cold in bed, as it helps me sleep better. I share a bed with my partner so it's not easy to have everything my way. I think he has insomnia of some sort (he's NT) but it might be due to him being unemployed. I'm not unemployed by the way.


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