Anyone else sick and tired of being forced to where a mask?

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20 Dec 2020, 3:50 pm

Title says it all.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:00 pm

I'm sick and tired of people not knowing how to spell "wear". And many other words.



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20 Dec 2020, 4:07 pm

I am not sick and tired of wearing a mask. Does your job oblige you to wear a mask throughout the workday? If so, then you have my sympathy. Otherwise you may want to examine why you need to ask this as it gives possible indication of the precise sort of attitude that has led to the need for all of us to wear masks for the foreseeable future.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:09 pm

Deltaville wrote:
Anyone else sick and tired of being forced to where a mask?
No.  I am neither sick nor tired of wearing a mask, and no one is "forcing" me to do so -- no one has coerced or threatened me, and my mask is not "super-glued" to my face; i can take it off any time I want to.

But wearing a mask means that (so far) I have not been infected by the coronavirus; two symptoms of which are sickness and tiredness.  So if you are feeling "sick and tired", then maybe you should have put that mask on, kept it on, and learned to deal with it.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:16 pm

I wear my mask with pride.Its a badge of compassion, I won’t infect others.It’s a small price to pay to save lives.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:23 pm

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I wear my mask with pride.Its a badge of compassion, I won’t infect others.It’s a small price to pay to save lives.


The fact that a piece of fabric can prevent viral transmission is not only highly dubious, it is a living joke.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:24 pm

Deltaville wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I wear my mask with pride.Its a badge of compassion, I won’t infect others.It’s a small price to pay to save lives.


The fact that a piece of fabric can prevent viral transmission is not only highly dubious, it is a living joke.

Bull$hit.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm


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20 Dec 2020, 4:27 pm

Misslizard wrote:
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Misslizard wrote:
I wear my mask with pride.Its a badge of compassion, I won’t infect others.It’s a small price to pay to save lives.


The fact that a piece of fabric can prevent viral transmission is not only highly dubious, it is a living joke.

Bull$hit.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm


The article doesn't prove s**t. It's only an isolated case study.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:31 pm

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The article doesn't prove s**t. It's only an isolated case study.
Please submit your own research paper, or a working link thereto, for our own review and study.

You are a fully-qualified virologist, are you not?


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20 Dec 2020, 4:36 pm

Fnord wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
The article doesn't prove s**t. It's only an isolated case study.
Please submit your own research paper, or a working link thereto, for our own review and study.

You are a fully-qualified virologist, are you not?


I'm a physicist.

Look at the article carefully. They don't hold realistic control variables and much of the content is conjectural.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:42 pm

Deltaville wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
The article doesn't prove s**t. It's only an isolated case study.
Please submit your own research paper, or a working link thereto, for our own review and study.  You are a fully-qualified virologist, are you not?
I'm a physicist.
Ahh ... Argument from False Authority ... got it!
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Look at the article carefully. They don't hold realistic control variables and much of the content is conjectural.
I have read this and many other articles on the subject, most of which are admittedly better-written that the ONE article that has ruined your day, and all have supported the same claim: Wearing a face mask properly strongly reduces your chances of contracting the coronavirus.

But if there is a valid research paper that can successfully support the null hypothesis, I would like to read it.

Got any?


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20 Dec 2020, 4:46 pm

Fnord wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
The article doesn't prove s**t. It's only an isolated case study.
Please submit your own research paper, or a working link thereto, for our own review and study.  You are a fully-qualified virologist, are you not?
I'm a physicist.
Ahh ... Argument from False Authority ... got it!
Deltaville wrote:
Look at the article carefully. They don't hold realistic control variables and much of the content is conjectural.
I have read this and many other articles on the subject, most of which are admittedly better-written that the ONE article that has ruined your day, and all have supported the same claim: Wearing a face mask properly strongly reduces your chances of contracting the coronavirus.

But if there is a valid research paper that can successfully support the null hypothesis, I would like to read it.

Got any?


You asked for my occupation and I answered it.

Even the paper concludes that study has some serious limitations in contrast to an experimental setting. And besides, if a mask is a piece of fabric, viral elements can easily permeate. Use your common sense.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:49 pm

Deltaville wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
The article doesn't prove s**t. It's only an isolated case study.
Please submit your own research paper, or a working link thereto, for our own review and study.  You are a fully-qualified virologist, are you not?
I'm a physicist.
Ahh ... Argument from False Authority ... got it!
Deltaville wrote:
Look at the article carefully. They don't hold realistic control variables and much of the content is conjectural.
I have read this and many other articles on the subject, most of which are admittedly better-written that the ONE article that has ruined your day, and all have supported the same claim: Wearing a face mask properly strongly reduces your chances of contracting the coronavirus.

But if there is a valid research paper that can successfully support the null hypothesis, I would like to read it.

Got any?


You asked for my occupation and I answered it.

Even the paper concludes that study has some serious limitations in contrast to an experimental setting. And besides, if a mask is a piece of fabric, viral elements can easily permeate. Use your common sense.


Are you saying we should wear saran wrap and condoms over our faces instead of breathable material?



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20 Dec 2020, 4:53 pm

LG have manufactured and released onto the market a wearable air purifier that has HEPA filters built in.
Looks pretty cool too, about £120 GBP

Has battery assisted breathing.

likely much better than fabric masks.

Looks pretty cool too.
LG Puricare wearable air purifier



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20 Dec 2020, 4:55 pm

Deltaville wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Deltaville wrote:
The article doesn't prove s**t. It's only an isolated case study.
Please submit your own research paper, or a working link thereto, for our own review and study.  You are a fully-qualified virologist, are you not?
I'm a physicist.
Ahh ... Argument from False Authority ... got it!
Deltaville wrote:
Look at the article carefully. They don't hold realistic control variables and much of the content is conjectural.
I have read this and many other articles on the subject, most of which are admittedly better-written that the ONE article that has ruined your day, and all have supported the same claim: Wearing a face mask properly strongly reduces your chances of contracting the coronavirus.  But if there is a valid research paper that can successfully support the null hypothesis, I would like to read it.  Got any?
You asked for my occupation and I answered it.
And thus we know that you are not a qualified expert on the subject.
Deltaville wrote:
Even the paper concludes that study has some serious limitations in contrast to an experimental setting. And besides, if a mask is a piece of fabric, viral elements can easily permeate. Use your common sense.
Common sense tells me that wearing a mask in public around sick people has kept me from being sick since this pandemic started without a vaccine against whatever sickness those people may have.  Common sense also tells me that ONE study that is admittedly flawed does not negate numerous studies that have been repeatedly vetted by appropriatly-trained experts.  Finally, common sense tells me to respect the opinions of qualified experts more than the opinions of unqualified rumor-mongers.


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20 Dec 2020, 4:56 pm

madbutnotmad wrote:
LG have manufactured and released onto the market a wearable air purifier that has HEPA filters built in.
Looks pretty cool too, about £120 GBP

Has battery assisted breathing.

likely much better than fabric masks.

Looks pretty cool too.
LG Puricare wearable air purifier



Interesting, and I thought that the only alternative was a condom and scuba tank.