Covid is now unavoidable

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Joe90
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09 Jan 2022, 11:32 am

The virus seems to be so contagious now that you can even catch it without going out the door.

My brother now has the virus, even though he has no job and doesn't go out and see many people (the people he has seen recently have all been tested negative), and when he does go out to the store he wears his face mask and makes sure his hands are sanitized. He even disinfects his car steering-wheel.

So I don't know where he would have caught that from. He's not the huggy type so often keeps his distance even when seeing people.

It's only a matter of time before everybody on the planet gets this. Lockdowns will do no good if people who don't go out much are still getting it. I think the virus is just in the air and you don't need to be in public to catch it.

I'm just waiting to catch it from somewhere now. I know I've been jabbed 3 times and so has my boyfriend but even so, people are still getting it and getting ill. My boyfriend has COPD and diabetes, will he be less likely to get ill with covid if he's had all 3 jabs? He's bound to catch it at work sooner or later.


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09 Jan 2022, 11:35 am

Yes, that seems to be only a slight exaggeration; but my wife and I are still staying inside, even though we are fully vaxxed.



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09 Jan 2022, 2:17 pm

Sorry to hear about your brother, hope he feels better. My brother and his family have it too, and he wasn't vaccinated (he is more or less skeptical whether or not it works), and was exposed by a female coworker who had it. I, on the other hand am vaxxed and boosted, and even I became uncertain as to whether or not I will.get it. Even if I did, the virus will be mild due to my vaccination and boost.

Have you ever thought of taking extra doses of vitamin C? While it won't completely prevent COVID, it will strengthen your immune system by giving it more protection from fighting COVID-19. I usually take my vitamin C in flavored powders you can mix in water. It's quite delicious if you want to try.


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09 Jan 2022, 2:23 pm

One must keep in mind, however, that Omicron is the dominant strain, and is much less severe than strains like Delta.

But if you’re vaxed, you should be ok.


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09 Jan 2022, 8:18 pm

You need a N95/P2 or higher and eye protection if you wish to avoid infection with an airborne virus. The eyes are a not-insignificant source of transmission. Fomites aren't really an issue. That combination is likely the best thing available in avoiding actual infection (better than the vaccines or prior infection). Cloth masks are mostly useless depending. Surgical are borderline and should be the minimum if one wants to avoid it. No eye protection means your mask is less effective whatever one it is. You technically could avoid it, outside of times you can't wear that level of protection, then luck enters the game. I might have fun and see how long I can avoid getting it regardless of the circumstances. I'm sure I'll have to be in and out of hospitals this year for someone else.

Something as simple as eyeglasses would provide protection to the user.

If Unicron is around 20% the severity of the others, that makes it fairly benign (comparatively speaking), outside of it still being airborne. If it is less severe by that much, I wouldn't worry about it too much now, and I'd treat it similar to seasonal influenza A at the personal level. Just far more will be infected, so a burden on services and supplies, though governments don't have many excuses there for lacking supplies and services since it's been close to two years now.



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09 Jan 2022, 11:05 pm

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Just far more will be infected, so a burden on services and supplies, though governments don't have many excuses there for lacking supplies and services since it's been close to two years now.

Problem is, it will take much more than two years to train enough new health care workers, especially enough new doctors, to handle the situation adequately.


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10 Jan 2022, 1:15 am

Dillogic wrote:
You need a N95/P2 or higher and eye protection if you wish to avoid infection with an airborne virus. The eyes are a not-insignificant source of transmission. Fomites aren't really an issue. That combination is likely the best thing available in avoiding actual infection (better than the vaccines or prior infection). Cloth masks are mostly useless depending. Surgical are borderline and should be the minimum if one wants to avoid it. No eye protection means your mask is less effective whatever one it is. You technically could avoid it, outside of times you can't wear that level of protection, then luck enters the game. I might have fun and see how long I can avoid getting it regardless of the circumstances. I'm sure I'll have to be in and out of hospitals this year for someone else.

Something as simple as eyeglasses would provide protection to the user.

If Unicron is around 20% the severity of the others, that makes it fairly benign (comparatively speaking), outside of it still being airborne. If it is less severe by that much, I wouldn't worry about it too much now, and I'd treat it similar to seasonal influenza A at the personal level. Just far more will be infected, so a burden on services and supplies, though governments don't have many excuses there for lacking supplies and services since it's been close to two years now.


A lot of those masks tend to be counterfeit, you hear it happening a lot in China so it isn't as easy as doing a search and finding the right mask. My mother was recently paranoid about ordering some because she knows some of them are counterfeit. Be careful where you get the masks from. Also like Mona Pereth said all the medical staff would have to be trained on how to use the new vaccines and any other new medical supplies that come out and how to protect themselves as well.


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10 Jan 2022, 2:06 am

I can't afford to keep buying certain 'special' masks. I'm a believer that masks do work to a certain extent, especially if other people around you are wearing a mask too. The exempt are probably the ones spreading the virus.

But I still can't avoid catching this new variant, especially when going to work. It's not so much the virus, it's having time off work and having to send away for a home testing kit to double check if you're positive or not. I heard lateral flow tests aren't as accurate as the PCR tests, and if you feel you have symptoms (of a cold, flu or covid) you must send away for a home testing kit, as well as taking a lateral flow test, and stay indoors until the PCR test comes back negative (which takes a few days) or if you're tested positive then obviously stay indoors until you're no longer showing symptoms after 7 days (but you still have to take a test before going out again). I just find all this exhausting, especially knowing that you've still got to go through the testing procedures when you just have a cold. Some people are coming out with just a sore throat thinking it's just a cold but then are tested positive for covid (and have probably infected about 20 other people).

I don't believe in diets and immunity. Before this pandemic I was always eating healthily (often ate vegetables, fruit, salads, yoghurt, fish, and drank herbal tea with vitamin C in it), but I still kept catching colds and I even got the flu. The doctor gave me vitamin C supplements to try but it didn't help, I still caught colds. Touch wood, I haven't had a cold since March 2020, but I'm waiting to get covid because everyone else is getting it. I don't even want to socialise any more because there will always be someone with covid in a group and then everyone else will end up with it 3 days later.

People. The only virus spreaders on this planet. :roll:


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10 Jan 2022, 2:17 am

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A lot of those masks tend to be counterfeit, you hear it happening a lot in China so it isn't as easy as doing a search and finding the right mask.


It's fairly simple to safety test N95/P2s and N100s/P3s (no need for test hoods either), but yeah, reputable dealers. Hardware stores, for example, and most sell online all the same.

I had quite a collection of P2s prior to its emergence, as rural, dust and Q fever, but Q fever isn't all that bad and likely similar to original SARS-CoV-2 in severity (they were quite cheap beforehand). I still do from the same. I don't think I ever caught Q fever. Early on with SARS-CoV-2, it looked like that was going to come in handy, but that soon went as it was quickly determined to be nowhere near SARS in severity (which made me happy for a couple of people there), where most end up with severe disease (quite higher fatality rates in someone my mother's age; 15 times higher than original SARS-CoV-2). There's one positive with wearing the disposable ones for viruses in room conditions is that they last for a very long time individually, so they're not really disposable. When outdoors, the dirt, dust and sweat tends to cause failure fairly quickly; you lack that in the rather sterile environment of civilization. You can just rotate them around, as the virions will become non-viable fairly quickly over the days/weeks.

I do find it funny how people complain about wearing masks, as I wear P2s when working in very hot conditions and sweat brings my 02 down quite a bit due to blocking the filter. It's no bother. I guess they wouldn't if it was airborne MERS or something, but maybe some still would, and that's their individual choice. Shaving is sometimes annoying though, especially if executive dysfunction does its thing.

I think two years is enough time to bring up infrastructure and train personnel, especially if you treat it as a national emergency. The amount of military equipment and trained personnel a wealthy country would create in a time of major war would put the SARS-CoV-2 response to shame. Governments failed overall.



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10 Jan 2022, 2:23 am

I caught it in the rehab unit I was in. Was allowed home Tuesday afternoon despite still being Covid positive. Was clear on Saturday. Symptoms were mild.



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11 Jan 2022, 5:16 am

I just can't be bothered with it, is all. It seems more people were asymptomatic before the vaccines, now after having all 3 vaccines people who have had it are saying it is like flu, and flu is not pleasant.


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12 Jan 2022, 8:20 am

I’m glad it was mild, Firemonkey.

How is your hip doing?



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12 Jan 2022, 11:17 am

I am certain that if I get it, I will die. I am fat, I eat a poor diet and I have issues breathing due to my weight as it is. walking out to my car and back wears me out. I absolutely cannot get COVID, I do not want to die and I am angry / entitled enough to say that I would take any measures nesessary even if it imposed on others to make sure I dont catch it.



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12 Jan 2022, 11:47 am

ibmat5170 wrote:
I am certain that if I get it, I will die. I am fat, I eat a poor diet and I have issues breathing due to my weight as it is. walking out to my car and back wears me out. I absolutely cannot get COVID, I do not want to die and I am angry / entitled enough to say that I would take any measures nesessary even if it imposed on others to make sure I dont catch it.


To avoid this omicron variant you'll have to live in an airtight room for how long it takes, and even that wouldn't guarantee complete protection, because this variant is SO contagious.


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12 Jan 2022, 11:51 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I’m glad it was mild, Firemonkey.

How is your hip doing?

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Some pain,, but nowhere near as bad as it was.



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12 Jan 2022, 1:13 pm

Are you vaccinated, Ibmat?

I know of at least one person who has many underlying conditions, but only got COVID relatively mildly.