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01 Mar 2022, 7:54 pm

Haha, Hansel & Gretel as a British kid, preparing you for life as an adult. You watch it and you think "oh, this can't be real.." and then it turns out to be very real. :)

I believe this is actually German in origin, but it works the same in the United Kingdom & its culture.



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04 Mar 2022, 12:44 am

Does the video explicitly say they're English rather than German?


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06 Mar 2022, 4:52 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Does the video explicitly say they're English rather than German?


No, I think that is irrelevant. The video is made in the English language, for an English audience. Hansel & Gretel is a Grimms' fairy tale & it is German in origin.

It is a fairy tale about child molestation, amongst other things.



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06 Mar 2022, 6:24 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Does the video explicitly say they're English rather than German?


No, I think that is irrelevant. The video is made in the English language, for an English audience. Hansel & Gretel is a Grimms' fairy tale & it is German in origin.

It is a fairy tale about child molestation, amongst other things.


Hm, I had never seen it from the pedophilia perspective before.


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06 Mar 2022, 6:37 pm

The witch wanted to eat the children. I guess that's a symbol of pedophilia now because just about everything else is now? :roll:

I never liked the story much anyway. A stereotypical wicked stepmother who wants to abandon the kids in the woods because apparently the parents are too poor to care for them any longer, and the father is supposed to be kind and loving to his kids but ends up agreeing to it anyway. And then the witch is burned alive in her oven. 8O



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06 Mar 2022, 6:56 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
The witch wanted to eat the children. I guess that's a symbol of pedophilia now because just about everything else is now? :roll:

I never liked the story much anyway. A stereotypical wicked stepmother who wants to abandon the kids in the woods because apparently the parents are too poor to care for them any longer, and the father is supposed to be kind and loving to his kids but ends up agreeing to it anyway. And then the witch is burned alive in her oven. 8O


I recall one interpretation in which the story is a memory of the famines so common to Medieval Europe. Very often, people had left their children out in the woods if they were unable to feed them. Also, cannibalism was frightfully common during those times of hunger.


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06 Mar 2022, 7:10 pm

The pedo angle is probably a modern repurposing of the fable.



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06 Mar 2022, 7:46 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
The witch wanted to eat the children. I guess that's a symbol of pedophilia now because just about everything else is now? :roll:

I never liked the story much anyway. A stereotypical wicked stepmother who wants to abandon the kids in the woods because apparently the parents are too poor to care for them any longer, and the father is supposed to be kind and loving to his kids but ends up agreeing to it anyway. And then the witch is burned alive in her oven. 8O


I recall one interpretation in which the story is a memory of the famines so common to Medieval Europe. Very often, people had left their children out in the woods if they were unable to feed them. Also, cannibalism was frightfully common during those times of hunger.


Interpretations are just that - interpretations. They vary based on factors such as geographical location.

The same fairy tale can mean two different concepts entirely, when told in two different countries.



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06 Mar 2022, 8:08 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
The pedo angle is probably a modern repurposing of the fable.


Yes.

Children were considered small adults centuries ago.

Thankfully we live in a civilised age, where children are treated with respect and not burdened with adult issues, being the small-bodied humans that they are.



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13 Mar 2022, 1:48 pm

I've always enjoyed the Bugs Bunny version of Hansel and Gretel, where the two kids speak with thick German accents and Hansel pronounces his name as "Hawn-sel", and then Bugs is confused and like, "Hawn-sel?...Hawnsel?" :?

And then later the witch puts Bugs to sleep with a poisoned carrot, but then a prince walks in and wakes him up. And Bugs says "Thanks for bringing me out of that, but your supposed to be in Snow White. This is the story of Hawn-sel and Gretal." Then the prince becomes confused and walks back out saying, "Hawn-sel?... Hawn-sel?" :lol:



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13 Mar 2022, 2:01 pm

And then there is the U.S. Army version.

"Hansel and Regrettal".

The WWII/Korean War era training movie for the troops about avoiding veneral disease.

Except it wasnt a real movie, but a fictional Army training movie the characters had to watch in episode of the TV version of MASH.

Though it wouldnt surprise me if they really did make a training movie of that title for that purpose.