Intercourse and Intelligence (and Feminism?)

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I ran across this article on Slashdot (as probably lots of other geeks here have), and I thought it interesting enough to warrant a poll, and perhaps some discussion.

Intercourse and Intelligence

The basic premise of the article / study is that the smarter you are, the less likely you are to have sex early on in life. The poll options are various theories pulled out of the article.

Comments?

Good fortune,

- Icarus

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seems a reasonable conclusion. i would take it a bit further and say there's probably a relationship between iq and reproductive choice.

I voted :

Based on dating sites like Match.com were women often report "braniacs" as a big turn off. Even alot of geeky women idealize the
jock over the intellectual.

I voted on the 2nd option:

Smarter people are more risk averse, and delay sexual activities over concerns about unwanted pregnancy and disease. While not avoiding sexual behaviors per se, they are less likely to seek out / consent to for fear of potential consequences.

It just fits my style in that I don't see myself as being that easy. As the saying goes, easy can mean just sleazy and it can and does have its dangers, not to mention a possible hidden agenda on the part of the other side.

Speaking from a male standpoint, it seems like women are getting pregnant at younger ages; therefore, they must have the urge to lose to virginity by age 13. Of course, the guys with the lower IQs (and higher emotions and tempers) are only too happy to oblige. Then the slippery slope starts towards early marriage, battered spouses, high divorce rates, and it's all because stupidity has been easier to breed since the beginning of time! The thought of sex and relationships makes me disgusted.

This quote sums it up:

Duckman: Boo-freaking-hoo. Like I am supposed to take women and how they feel seriously? You want to be accepted for your minds but you throw a hissy fit royalé if someone isn't saying you look great 30 hours a day. You say you want a nice guy but you only give it up to the creeps. You get to stay home, not go to war, live longer, and have sex whenever you want! So remind me again what exactly is there to complain about!

I learned this long time ago, much to my disappointment. After all, I'm smart (book-smart, at least). Not to mention, I have a butt-ugly face. But if most girls don't want a guy like me, so be it. I resolved my situation with these two methods.

Method 1
I lower my standards as much as I can handle. As long as she's visibly female (i.e. doesn't look like a guy), and has all the body parts in place, I'm willing to give her a chance, and even have a long-term relationship with her (as well as the physical stuff). As someone with bad looks and low pick-up skills, I have no right to insist on dating good-looking girls, no matter how much I'd like to. Lowering my standards worked great for me: I got to make out, have free sex (see below), and even experience an actual relationship.

Method 2
I see an escort whenever I feel an "itch" coming on. It all feels very rational and normal, and not one bit shameful. After all, this is the only way I can get a good-looking girl to come near me, and it's a fun change of scenery from who I normally date. Also, I get to fulfill my fantasy about being with a hot girl. (Please note that I never see an escort while I'm in a relationship.) I think this is why prostitution (or "escorting", as I prefer) is the world's oldest profession: there were always unattractive guys who wanted sex.

anyone seen that movie Idiocracy? is it worth seeing or am i already living it?

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"Smarter people are more risk averse..."
and
"Intelligent people (particulalry males) actually want to have sex..."
and
"Some combination of the previous theories."
and
"The study is flawed / theories are bogus."

...which is coincendently what the poll shows.
Imagine that.

I think that's the largest factor,
but I suspect that some of the
others play a role as well.

I never suspected, but was extremely suprised to learn, that more intelligent men are thought to have MORE chances later in life at the mating game than better looking men that aren't so bright that get lots of early chances. This according to 3 widely-used evolutionary psychology textbooks. But that also means that despite what we may think g- "general intelligence"- has been RISING over deep evolutionary time. Hence even our lamest citizens are considered to be MUCH, MUCH smarter than the average Neanderthal ever was (including of course our early ancestors too in that blanket statement). I didn't particularly care for the "evolutionary" evidence of heavy selection, sexual or otherwise, of g however. Though I think the theory kinda makes sense.

I'm going with intellectuals just aren't as interested in sex.

Going on my own ideas, I certainly don't consider sex to be the most interesting thing in the world. Despite being a guy with I believe an average sex drive... it isn't on the top of my mind all day long. And if I am really learning something new, I barely even realize that I have a drive.

It seems, Risk analysis is another factor too, it's very easy to use your imagination and trick yourself out of perusing physical relationships.

Of course for me, I've reasoned that it is good to stay a virgin until marriage... so it's no problem.

Yeah, so it makes sense that we spend more time on career etc and THEN we mate a whole bunch to make up for it. There's no doubt that Trump probably gets as much a#$ as any good ball player for example. Women just find monetary success to be a better sign of how much a man can invest in offspring than say, looks. Studies I've read have shown that women are interested in wealth and status when looking for mates, but more in looks when looking to mate.

Intellectuals intellectualize.

Yeah this has been a known phenominon for a while.

They also found a corrilation between level of education and number of children you have. More education = less children.

This reflects my personal experiences.

Also, the 'smart' guy has something at his advantage that others don't: thinking about and planning his own life. Planning things like when to have the kids and how to pass on the wealth. What I mean is this:

Who is more successful with women?

A.) The man who has sex with 100 beautiful women.

B.) The man who has sex with 1 woman, and has 1 child with her.

The answer is B because the future will 'look' like the second man. Personally, I'd like to have a mob-family style thing in my personal future with any kids I have.

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