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19 Mar 2022, 8:52 am

Anyone else watch "Inventing Anna" on Netflix? I'd love to hear from other ASD people regarding this, and here's why...

Most people are hating on Anna, saying she's a sociopath and snake. But I completely disagree.

Like any social media influencer or successful person, Anna created an image to sell herself (sell her brand). She used her smarts to fool dumb people. People in business and government do this everyday to get ahead. The general public is faulting Anna for being smart and using those smarts to her advantage.

As an ASDer with high IQ, I completely relate to Anna's statement of "I have no patience for people's stupidity." I don't feel sorry for people who get taken advantage of when it was completely avoidable by doing 'due diligence.'

For example, she stayed in multiple hotels. She presented a credit card, that was declined the following day. Yet the hotels let her stay. Thats the hotels' fault for allowing her stay without a valid payment.

Another example. She's accused of stealing an airplane. The truth is, she told the airline she had permission to use the plane, but NO ONE checked to see if it was true. They just took her word for it. That's the airline's fault, not Anna's fault.

Interested in y'alls opinions as we ASDers are more logical than NTs :)



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19 Mar 2022, 11:19 am

Admittedly, it's still not very moral. She knew there were flaws in the checking and security procedures, yes. She could have reported them, or even made them public if the relevant companies didn't want to do anything about them. But she chose to commit fraud and/or theft.

Leaving an apple pie on the windowsill is not an invitation to theft, in a polite society. Leaving a front door unlocked is not an invitation to trespass. While some people might still do these things, that is a choice they make.

Of course, you could argue that in a society which lets the upper echelons get away with billions in fraud and theft, Anna isn't doing anywhere near the same level of damage, and in fact is potentially lifting herself into that strata where control over the lower levels of society means getting away with it (as long as you don't steal from the other wealthy, just the poor people who can't do anything about it). But then that poses the question as to whether it's acceptable for even the wealthy to get away with the kinds of things that Anna does on a far, far smaller scale - if it's not acceptable for her to do it, why are the powerful allowed to get away with it? Should Anna be punished purely because she is not powerful?



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19 Mar 2022, 7:37 pm

Dial1194 wrote:
Of course, you could argue that in a society which lets the upper echelons get away with billions in fraud and theft, Anna isn't doing anywhere near the same level of damage, and in fact is potentially lifting herself into that strata where control over the lower levels of society means getting away with it (as long as you don't steal from the other wealthy, just the poor people who can't do anything about it). But then that poses the question as to whether it's acceptable for even the wealthy to get away with the kinds of things that Anna does on a far, far smaller scale - if it's not acceptable for her to do it, why are the powerful allowed to get away with it? Should Anna be punished purely because she is not powerful?


Good points. I think Anna kind of gets a pass (in a sense) because she stole from wealthy people and businesses, and us 99%ers kind of resent the 1%ers, so there isn't an outrage.

I'd have to argue though that stealing a pie or going in someone's unlocked home is a bit different than Anna's "crimes." She checked in at hotels and could have been stopped. She didn't sneak into any rooms or steal room keys. She presented herself to the front desk, and they allowed her to stay despite bad credit cards.

In other words, there were people to stop Anna, but they enjoyed the prestige that Anna offered. Even the bankers broke their own rules.



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19 Mar 2022, 8:02 pm

ummm where did Shonda Rhimes base this on an autistic character? I thought Anna Sorokin (the real life person the character was based on) is a very manipulative NT?



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19 Mar 2022, 8:08 pm

Kt.Kpop wrote:
As an ASDer with high IQ, I completely relate to Anna's statement of "I have no patience for people's stupidity." I don't feel sorry for people who get taken advantage of when it was completely avoidable by doing 'due diligence.'


ummm you do know that many thousands (perhaps hundreds of thousands) of autistic people are literally "taken advantage off" for similar reasons you seem to be proud to align yourself to.

Might be better to express this in terms of people who have the capacity to exercise "due diligence" but where the individual chooses not to because they "choose" to be ignorant. I find (and I don't claim to have a "high IQ") that I have no patience for these people as they are literally what's wrong with the modern world.



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20 Mar 2022, 2:05 pm

I've never heard of her. I don't have Netflix and even if I did I'd probably never watch it anyway. Not just the show, but Netflix in general. It's bad enough that I even still have a television, seriously.



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20 Mar 2022, 5:11 pm

cyberdad wrote:
ummm where did Shonda Rhimes base this on an autistic character? I thought Anna Sorokin (the real life person the character was based on) is a very manipulative NT?


Ugh, where do you get that from? No one said Anna was autistic.



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20 Mar 2022, 5:22 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Kt.Kpop wrote:
As an ASDer with high IQ, I completely relate to Anna's statement of "I have no patience for people's stupidity." I don't feel sorry for people who get taken advantage of when it was completely avoidable by doing 'due diligence.'


ummm you do know that many thousands (perhaps hundreds of thousands) of autistic people are literally "taken advantage off" for similar reasons you seem to be proud to align yourself to.

Might be better to express this in terms of people who have the capacity to exercise "due diligence" but where the individual chooses not to because they "choose" to be ignorant. I find (and I don't claim to have a "high IQ") that I have no patience for these people as they are literally what's wrong with the modern world.


You're an as*hole with some serious issues, like narcissistic and abusive to start with. Because I said I can understand Anna's POV, you twist that into "proud to align yourself". GTFOH. Just because you understand someone's POV doesn't mean you agree with them, or act like them.



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20 Mar 2022, 5:23 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Kt.Kpop wrote:
As an ASDer with high IQ, I completely relate to Anna's statement of "I have no patience for people's stupidity." I don't feel sorry for people who get taken advantage of when it was completely avoidable by doing 'due diligence.'


ummm you do know that many thousands (perhaps hundreds of thousands) of autistic people are literally "taken advantage off" for similar reasons you seem to be proud to align yourself to.

Might be better to express this in terms of people who have the capacity to exercise "due diligence" but where the individual chooses not to because they "choose" to be ignorant. I find (and I don't claim to have a "high IQ") that I have no patience for these people as they are literally what's wrong with the modern world.


You're an a$$hole with some serious issues, like narcissistic and abusive to start with. Because I said I can understand Anna's POV, you twist that into "proud to align yourself". GTFOH. Just because you understand someone's POV doesn't mean you agree with them, or act like them.