did you know humanity is insane ?

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Think about it, it started with religion, which is clearly insane and motivated by serious issues that causes serious anxieties. Isn't it insane to put faith in something you can't see, even to put faith into an external force rather than yourself to get something done is pretty crazy. I mean people need to work together, but creating some fictional figure that will "cure" our problems with "miracles" just shows how humanity has progressively been moving out of insanity. Religion has lost the influence it once had and I see this as a sign.

I have studied the philosopical thought of the western world from the earliest writings to the recent developments and it wasn't until 1960's that humanity finally realized that we can shape ourselves and that God isn't real (lets leave the middleeast out of this they are even more insane).

Studying philosophy has really showed me how insane humanity once was, not to say humanity still isn't insane.

What I mean by insane? The precepts of insanity are lack of control of ones owns thoughts. For centuries people were guided by GOD, so insane.

Now we see the same thing with psychiatry. In 50 years it will go bankrupt on itself and people will have to rely on themselves and their peers to understand themselves.

Anyone agree? Humanity is evolving out of insanity?

Yes. Humans are insane. Religion is insane. I just wish more people would get it.

Why would one expect the insane to see
their insanity?

I too wish more people would get religion,
but mine - not these silly ones which do
me no good.

Aradford, what do you mean by insane? You seem to use the term with quite a wide scope.

The definetion of insane is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

How do we define insanity? In order to define it we must have a notion of how the mind should work and compare it to how it is working. Because of that, we can define insanity in any number of self-serving ways if we simply call a behavior to be deviance.

Now, the argument here is that religion is insane because it is crazy to trust something you cannot see and put faith in an external force. The latter is most assuredly done all of the time though, as most forces are external and people rely on them in order to move water, adjust heat, or even holding people as external forces we can claim that all of our reality is held together by external forces. Not only that but I would think that the real problem is one of absolute knowledge, which most people lack. The strongly religious will often uphold the validity of past miracles and thus claim that based upon the past they are justified for the future, as such they claim that their faith is rational rather than irrational, and more along the lines of thinking that a book with the title "Harry Potter" truly is a "Harry Potter" book. The difficulty then is debunking their claims of historicism and the scholars that they employ to strengthen their base.

A lack of control over one's thoughts? I think that modern determinists would claim that there is no free will involved in that. As well, all people are driven by some objective anyway, some philosophical aim that cannot be quantified, measured, proven or disproven.

I think that we are all insane.

Though under this definetion prayer could be called insane. praying for crops to grow and then for your children to grow up well as an example.

Why? Crops and children DO tend to grow.
Nothing insane about it, under THAT definition.

Luckily, 'twas only a silly quip, when first uttered.

What about doing different things and expecting the same results?

What you might mean is lot of humans use wiseful thinking vs being more realist about their place in the world. Humans who call themself diest are more realist than any religionist could ever be. The peachers/clery/mulahs etc are beggers for fill the blank, if there is something running things why does it not provide ? Short answer there is most likely not something running things. Will humans stop killing in the name of fill in the blank yes most have it's the less enlighted ones that still think their god or gods demands killing unbelivers and or try to convert to their views and are in need of reform to were they may not understand others views but do not try to convert or kill about it.

Do you talk to yourself much??

Yes

No! Shut the hell up! Your not some crazy s**thead.

Yes I am.

No your not!

I talk to myself all the time. I have better conversations with Soph than I do with anyone else.

So do I. I tend to agree with myself, though not always.

Yes, I agree. Unfortunately it seems like the cycle perpetuates itself. Someone will get a crazy idea then everyone starts to believe it's the right way to do things even if it may not be. Then the children are born and brought up on it so they grow up and believe the nonsense as well. It never ends.

Talking to yourself is quite 'normal'; whacking yourself with a cricket bat is insane.

And apparently hoping that a decent politician will come along is bordering on insanity.