Where do you struggle with dating?
I imagine we all have different areas that we struggle with. Perhaps some just don't know how to or dislike having to interact with strangers. Maybe some are just very socially awkward. There are lots of options. My struggle is just in meeting people. Even before I was diagnosed with Aspergers, my hobbies and interests did not faciliate meeting women, specifically single women. Currently, I enjoy going to a cigar/pipe lounge on winter evenings. Lots of nice guys (mostly married) there and occasionally someone will bring their wife or girlfriend with them, but there are no single women.
I'm also a fan of board/card gaming. I used to be a pretty hardcore player of Magic: the Gathering, but have transitioned more into board games. Guess what, that's not a viable way to meet single women. Lots of women play and enjoy gaming, but they're not single. They come with their husbands or boyfriends and really enjoy the hobby, but not single.
I also really enjoy fishing. I meet lots of nice and attractive women while fishing, believe it or not, but none of them are single. I've taken classes for bonsai trees, photography, cooking, etc and same problem. Lots of guys show up and a few wives and girlfriends, but no single women.
Shyness and I do not always pick up on hints!
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I struggle in LOTS of areas with dating & relationships but I think my most limiting factor is not being independent due to being disabled. I could of compensated or worked around my other issues if I would of had a bit of money & my own place. I would of pursued the mail-order bride route or taken in a woman who needed a place to stay if I had those options instead of being single & looking for 8 years straight without so much as a single date
Another somewhat major factor for me is not fitting in with the area I lived in. I cant drive due to being extremely nearsighted & where my parents live had no public transportation system & nothing within a decent walking distance. It was also the bible-belt, very hard-core conservative, & outdoor activities are very popular. I'm a Secular Humanist, kinda progressive partly due to being disabled & the area majorly looks down on disableds as being lazy moochers, & I never been into outdoor activities partly due to my disabilities.
This seems counter intuitive but the way I act within a romantic relationship is kinda opposite of the stereotypical Aspie guy but I still have the typical Aspie guy weaknesses. I love spending a lot of time with my romantic partner & I like women who are needy, clingy & are dealing with various issues. I like being supportive of my romantic partner when I can but I do not go about it the typical NT way. I'm much more direct, straightforward, analytical, & logical about it. I can come off as rude, offensive, mean, callous, hateful, & such when I really do care & am trying my best. People tend to misread me & I have a hard time reading others. I also do not conform to any stereotype & it throws others for a loop cuz they categorize people in square boxes & I do not fit in any box.
It seems like lots of people do not have the same perspective about relationships I do. I do not base relationships on things like chemistry, sparks, butterflies in my stomach, nor finishing each other's sentences. I care about substantive things like trust, respect, loyalty, & commitment. I expect any romantic relationship I get in to have lots of problems at times & what's important is how we deal with them together. I'm NOT the type to want to end a relationship the moment we have an argument. I need my partner to try & meet me halfway. Sometimes I get my way, sometimes she gets hers, & sometimes neither of us get exactly what we want or need; & that's OK, I'm not keeping score. I don't want either of us to feel like we're getting majorly screwed over & I want both of us to feel like the other is trying even if we feel like we're failing miserably at times. I want to be accepted by my partner but I also expect romantic relationships to change me. I want to feel like I'm a better person with my partner. Sometimes just having a rock to turn to, feeling loved & accepted, & having motivation is a huge help; & I want my partner to feel the same way about me. Very luckily I have a lot of this with my current girlfriend
I never done the dating thing despite having three relationships. They were online at 1st & the dating step got skipped & went to a serious LDR. I'm not sue how to date & the idea seems extremely overwhelming We'd both try to impress each other while at the same time trying to get the other to accept us as we are
It's like playing a poker game when I'd much rather just throw all my cards on the table & she can take em or leave.
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- Knowing when someone is interested.
- Approaching someone without forgetting how to form a sentence.
- Trying to not do a U turn and fighting the urge to run away.
- Trying and failing not to overthink the entire thing as I play various scenarios in my head, convincing myself that everything will be terrible.
- Attempting to talk about crushes without becoming a flustered mess.
Still, I want to try.
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Sounds to me like you have a very good, emotionally mature set of attitudes, likely to lead to successful relationships.
I agree it's important to recognize that disagreements, misunderstandings, etc. are inevitable, and to be prepared to handle them in a mutually respectful manner. I agree that the most important thing in a relationship is how the partners deal with problems.
I also agree that "butterflies" and "sparks" are not a sound basis for forming relationships. (I've always preferred to get my "butterflies" and "sparks" from hobbies, not from people.)
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My own current and longest-lasting relationship didn't involve any dating either. It seems to me that meeting and getting to know each other in contexts other than dating is more likely to lead to a successful relationship.
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The worst was to actually let someone know that I'm interested. I can do the first stage of flirting but it never progress anywhere, I don't know how people exchange phone numbers for example.
Online dating solved this probem, but brought some new too. Mind you, I overcome them snd I'm in a relationship with an autistic man now.
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Bit of an overgeneralization, don’t you think? As a cishet guy, not all of us only care about “body parts”. LGBTQ+ Autistics actually have it easier than straight Autistics thanks to the large amount of LGBTQ+ social infrastructure out there (college clubs, specifically catered dating sites, pride parades, etc.).
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Are you sure there aren't any games that have more appeal to women (including at least some single women) than the ones you've tried so far?
Have you tried dance classes? Sewing classes?
Also, I notice that you live in Idaho, which has a slightly higher male-to-female ratio than the average U.S. state. (See statistics here.) Is there any possibility that you could move to a different state?
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Sounds to me like you have a very good, emotionally mature set of attitudes, likely to lead to successful relationships.
I agree it's important to recognize that disagreements, misunderstandings, etc. are inevitable, and to be prepared to handle them in a mutually respectful manner. I agree that the most important thing in a relationship is how the partners deal with problems.
I also agree that "butterflies" and "sparks" are not a sound basis for forming relationships. (I've always preferred to get my "butterflies" and "sparks" from hobbies, not from people.)
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My own current and longest-lasting relationship didn't involve any dating either. It seems to me that meeting and getting to know each other in contexts other than dating is more likely to lead to a successful relationship.
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