The REAL reason the U.S. and Israel invaded Gaza Strip

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16 Nov 2023, 8:10 pm

Listened to this. Thought it deserved its own thread. Makes a LOT of sense to me.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/TafdgR ... tid=Ycv8MH

Cliffs: There’s a massive natural gas reserve off the coast of Gaza and Israel is stealing it with the USA’s help. Now it all makes much more sense. Billions and Billions of dollars worth of natural gas is a pretty fantastic reason to create conflict and divide people arguing over ideologies and religions and historical territory and all the rest of it. Everyone’s distracted over all these superficial excuses while Israel and the USA scheme to take control of the gas reserves.


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16 Nov 2023, 8:31 pm

Right. So, that massive attack in Israel on 7 October had nothing to do with it, I guess. Israel would not have needed to invade Gaza in order to take that oil though, considering that Gaza was blockaded for many years and they actually had control of the sea.



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16 Nov 2023, 8:59 pm

So the liberal Biden administration which has halted drilling for gas in the USA is looking for international targets to obtain oil from?

Is Hamas in kohoots with them all in giving them reason to extract this resource?

So strange that Israel would do this when they have so much technology information to sell and trade with the world in exchange for oil. The saudis are beginning to invest in diversifying to technology.

Interesting theory that your proposing, with so many holes in it



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16 Nov 2023, 9:02 pm

Jono wrote:
Right. So, that massive attack in Israel on 7 October had nothing to do with it, I guess. Israel would not have needed to invade Gaza in order to take that oil though, considering that Gaza was blockaded for many years and they actually had control of the sea.


^^^ This



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16 Nov 2023, 10:25 pm

Did any of you replying even watch/listen to the video? :?


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16 Nov 2023, 11:04 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Did any of you replying even watch/listen to the video? :?


Why would we need to?


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16 Nov 2023, 11:13 pm

About Clayton Morris . . .

In March 2019, investors filed more than two dozen lawsuits in Indiana and New Jersey, claiming that Morris was running a Ponzi scheme involving the sales of some houses in C- and D-class neighborhoods that were marketed through his investment company, Morris Invest, in Indianapolis.  The investors claimed they were sold rental properties which Morris Invest promised to rehabilitate and rent out, earning them rental income.  These properties belonged to Bert Whalen. Some investors claimed that they later discovered the properties they received rental income from for several months were boarded up and vacant, and they began receiving city code and country health department violations.  Others found they had purchased vacant lots, small shacks or buildings that were falling down.

Morris sued HoltonWiseTV in federal court in October 2019 for $7.2 million, alleging copyright infringement; the case stemmed from HoltonWiseTV's production of a three-hour documentary investigating the alleged involvement of Morris in various real estate scams.  In March 2020, Morris lost the suit.

In May 2020, the state of Indiana filed a civil lawsuit against Clayton Morris, among others, for violating Indiana's deceptive sales and home loan acts in real estate deals involving more than 150 properties in Marion County.


Now, please explain to me how a man so lacking in integrity should be believed when he makes any claims about Jewish conspiracies.

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17 Nov 2023, 12:48 am

No idea who this guy is. Just seemed way more plausible that a war would be waged over Billions of dollars worth of gas than for a few thousand feet of sand.


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17 Nov 2023, 1:59 am

So Israel had fake HAMAS terrorists cross the border and attack Isrea's own people...Israeli civilians and commit all too real heinous atrocities on them...and Israel did that to justify their current ground invasion of Gaza?

And HAMAS just went along with it. Didnt deny committing the atrocities. In fact took credit for them?

Sounds believable to me.



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17 Nov 2023, 2:30 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Listened to this. Thought it deserved its own thread. Makes a LOT of sense to me.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/TafdgR ... tid=Ycv8MH

Cliffs: There’s a massive natural gas reserve off the coast of Gaza and Israel is stealing it with the USA’s help. Now it all makes much more sense. Billions and Billions of dollars worth of natural gas is a pretty fantastic reason to create conflict and divide people arguing over ideologies and religions and historical territory and all the rest of it. Everyone’s distracted over all these superficial excuses while Israel and the USA scheme to take control of the gas reserves.



Well in my opinion that was not worth all the dead children....but yeah f*****g oil, that seems likely. So that is what palastinian civilians have been getting blown up for....and who knows some of hamasas hostages may have alredy been killed by Israel boming palestinian hospitals. As Isreals leader is a freaking extremist, and only cares about killing hamas opretives regardless of how many civilians will be killed. LIke half those hostages will probably be killed by isreali fire.


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17 Nov 2023, 2:35 am

Ruthieyossi wrote:
So the liberal Biden administration which has halted drilling for gas in the USA is looking for international targets to obtain oil from?

Is Hamas in kohoots with them all in giving them reason to extract this resource?

So strange that Israel would do this when they have so much technology information to sell and trade with the world in exchange for oil. The saudis are beginning to invest in diversifying to technology.

Interesting theory that your proposing, with so many holes in it


Idk does seem like this attack happened at the worst time for american elections, like it's dividing the democratic party which could give the republicans an edge. LIke not sure this timing was totally random...or if it was somehow planned this way. Idk...but due to this it makes it hard to really trust either party. I still say vote democrat so we don't get facism but the democrats are also problematic themselves. At least being a socialist that is what I think.


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17 Nov 2023, 3:07 am

naturalplastic wrote:
So Israel had fake HAMAS terrorists cross the border and attack Isrea's own people...Israeli civilians and commit all too real heinous atrocities on them...and Israel did that to justify their current ground invasion of Gaza?

And HAMAS just went along with it. Didnt deny committing the atrocities. In fact took credit for them?

Sounds believable to me.

There were articles in the media speculating that Netanyahu had intel that Hamas was planning an attack but let it happen in order to become the wartime president and hopefully win over voters. I guess he was losing popularity and hopes to stay in power by retaliating against Hamas and beating them.


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17 Nov 2023, 3:35 am

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naturalplastic wrote:
So Israel had fake HAMAS terrorists cross the border and attack Isrea's own people...Israeli civilians and commit all too real heinous atrocities on them...and Israel did that to justify their current ground invasion of Gaza?

And HAMAS just went along with it. Didnt deny committing the atrocities. In fact took credit for them?

Sounds believable to me.

There were articles in the media speculating that Netanyahu had intel that Hamas was planning an attack but let it happen in order to become the wartime president and hopefully win over voters. I guess he was losing popularity and hopes to stay in power by retaliating against Hamas and beating them.



Well I will probably get banned if I compare it to the thing I am thinking about, so I will just let the rest of you discuss this and chime in if I agree with anyone. lol I need this forum sometimes to vent and what not so I don't want to get banned but now with the Isreal-palestine conflict, its a risky move mentioning that maybe a death toll of 100,000 palestinians is not ok compared to the 1,500 isrealies that have been killed. BUt yeah as I say I need this forum so I will say no more on it for now.


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17 Nov 2023, 4:57 am

Jono wrote:
Right. So, that massive attack in Israel on 7 October had nothing to do with it, I guess. Israel would not have needed to invade Gaza in order to take that oil though, considering that Gaza was blockaded for many years and they actually had control of the sea.


Won't be an easy task if Hamas are shooting rockets on refineries every while, no?


Also wiping out Gaza off map would allow the Ben Gurion project, I wouldn't be surprised that if it get started soon.

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17 Nov 2023, 5:39 am

goldfish21 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
So Israel had fake HAMAS terrorists cross the border and attack Isrea's own people...Israeli civilians and commit all too real heinous atrocities on them...and Israel did that to justify their current ground invasion of Gaza?

And HAMAS just went along with it. Didnt deny committing the atrocities. In fact took credit for them?

Sounds believable to me.

There were articles in the media speculating that Netanyahu had intel that Hamas was planning an attack but let it happen in order to become the wartime president and hopefully win over voters. I guess he was losing popularity and hopes to stay in power by retaliating against Hamas and beating them.


Hamas: ha ha we're hiding under a hospital hee hee ha ha

Israel leader: we'll blow up the whole hospital to get you! terrorist!

Israel leader blows up hospital, and says yeah all those civilan animals were simply human sheilds nothing wrong with shooting them all when half were probably innocent civlians as there is no such thing as an innocent civilan in the gaza strip even if its a child you have to shoot it dead. So if that is isreals policy I am afraid half the isreali and american hostiges will be kiled before there is even a chance for barganing for them. With the constant bombardment how are any of those hostages to get out safely? Will Israel require them to denounce hamas or kill them on the spot if they don't say the right denouncement words. I mean according to the U.S and other countries Israel can do no wrong so hard to say.

Israel has a gross power hungary leader and he is out for blood, he'll never agree to a two state solution cause then he has less power, I can't believe the civilized world is falling fo this extremist...just to protect so called 'biblical land' and is it really worth people dying for?


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17 Nov 2023, 7:20 am

^ It doesn't matter if the hostages get killed under the Hannibal directive.