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18 Dec 2023, 8:00 pm
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
What really bothers me is the way nobody can dare say a word against what Israel is doing to those Palestenians without being labelled an anti-semite or somebody bringing up the Holocaust to guilt people into silence.
That's a bit of an extreme statement. Plenty of people on this forum, Facebook, real life etc are criticising Israel for what they're doing and not all of them are being labelled as anti-semitic or getting some sort of Holocaust guilt justification.
Wat crimes are war crimes and it seems Israel is in fact committing them and should be criticized for it. Hamas are terrorists and committed acts of terrorism and should be criticized for that. There is no "right side," in this conflict when they're both wrong.
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18 Dec 2023, 8:23 pm
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
What really bothers me is the way nobody can dare say a word against what Israel is doing to those Palestenians without being labelled an anti-semite or somebody bringing up the Holocaust to guilt people into silence.
That's a bit of an extreme statement. Plenty of people on this forum, Facebook, real life etc are criticising Israel for what they're doing and not all of them are being labelled as anti-semitic or getting some sort of Holocaust guilt justification.
Wat crimes are war crimes and it seems Israel is in fact committing them and should be criticized for it. Hamas are terrorists and committed acts of terrorism and should be criticized for that. There is no "right side," in this conflict when they're both wrong.
I'm not exaggerating. I've been accused of antisemitism twice by Israelies just for saying I felt sorry for Palestenians.
Ok.. so you've cited 2 personal examples, but that doesn't mean that Nobody can dare say a word against what Israel is doing w/o being called anti-semitic/Holocaust guilt trip. There's even a long thread on this forum with plenty of criticism of Israel w/o people being called anti-semitic/Holocaust guilt trip.
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19 Dec 2023, 12:48 am
belijojo wrote:
This post has been up for a while, but not many people have participated in the discussion, which I guess reflects something
That "something" is everyone being coerced into silence by the zionists over Israel's war crimes because it's become taboo to even acknowledge it.
Kinda like when the CCP had the whole Uyghur genocide thing swept under the rug... whatever happened to those guys anyways?
19 Dec 2023, 12:57 am
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
That "something" is everyone being coerced into silence by the zionists over Israel's war crimes because it's become taboo to even acknowledge it.
Somehow, I started to avoid it, maybe I felt the weird atmosphere between them.
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Kinda like when the CCP had the whole Uyghur genocide thing swept under the rug... whatever happened to those guys anyways?
You are highly skilled at offending people.I have nothing to say about this, I know nothing.
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19 Dec 2023, 1:01 am
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
belijojo wrote:
This post has been up for a while, but not many people have participated in the discussion, which I guess reflects something
That "something" is everyone being coerced into silence by the zionists over Israel's war crimes because it's become taboo to even acknowledge it.
Kinda like when the CCP had the whole Uyghur genocide thing swept under the rug... whatever happened to those guys anyways?
Also the whole thing with Iranians protesting the hijab requirment for women, that was a big deal for a minute than everyone forgot about it...while there are still probably citizens being killed over that. But apparently Iran is a big ally for something so the U.S just has to pretend its fine if they kill tons of their citizens over not wanting to force people to wear a silly head scarf. Like idk if I get hate for it, it's not right for Israel to kill so many civilians, just like it isnt right for Iran to kill a bunch of civilians becasuse woman are sick of wearing head scarfs and full body coverings in the desert where it is hot out, where guys get to actually dress for the weather.
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19 Dec 2023, 2:31 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
belijojo wrote:
This post has been up for a while, but not many people have participated in the discussion, which I guess reflects something
That "something" is everyone being coerced into silence by the zionists over Israel's war crimes because it's become taboo to even acknowledge it.
Kinda like when the CCP had the whole Uyghur genocide thing swept under the rug... whatever happened to those guys anyways?
Also the whole thing with Iranians protesting the hijab requirment for women, that was a big deal for a minute than everyone forgot about it...while there are still probably citizens being killed over that. But apparently Iran is a big ally for something so the U.S just has to pretend its fine if they kill tons of their citizens over not wanting to force people to wear a silly head scarf. Like idk if I get hate for it, it's not right for Israel to kill so many civilians, just like it isnt right for Iran to kill a bunch of civilians becasuse woman are sick of wearing head scarfs and full body coverings in the desert where it is hot out, where guys get to actually dress for the weather.
Iran is hardly an "ally."
I think the main reason why we don't hear much about the Uyghurs, or about Iranian women, is simply that the American mass media assume most Americans aren't terribly interested. Only a very tiny number of Americans are from either Xinjiang or Iran, or otherwise have an attachment to these places. On the other hand, huge numbers of Americans see Israel as "the Holy Land."
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