Do homosexuality and Autism/ADHD have common denominator?

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24 Feb 2024, 8:30 am

As(s) above :wink:



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24 Feb 2024, 9:06 am

There are theories as to why we're less likely to identify as cis and straight, but so far as I'm aware we just know that we are disproportionately queer - not why we're disproportionately queer.


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24 Feb 2024, 9:34 am

colliegrace wrote:
There are theories as to why we're less likely to identify as cis and straight, but so far as I'm aware we just know that we are disproportionately queer - not why we're disproportionately queer.



That's interesting I'm most definitely queer I'm rather bulky and big but I love if some horny 22 yo ADHDer or fellow Aspie experienced 40 yo something humps me on :mrgreen: I'm into guys.

Your profile states you're non-binary I never get to know what non-binary really means?



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24 Feb 2024, 9:36 am

pawelk1986 wrote:
As(s) above :wink:

Possibly, there is a pretty massive increase in prevalence of most sexual orientation and gender identity variance within the autistic community. The numbers I've seen are something on the order of 11x the prevalence of the general population.

There may be a different explanation, but that kind of an increase also suggest that there's something about the neurodevelopmental pathways of both sets of things that are shared.



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24 Feb 2024, 9:55 am

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Your profile states you're non-binary I never get to know what non-binary really means?

I don't identify as male or female. I am AFAB (born with female biology), but I don't consider myself a woman. Some consider gender to be a separate concept from biological sex - gender is "in your head", biological sex is outward phenotype.
For me, I'm agender. I don't "feel" like a man, but I also don't "feel" like a woman. This is different, imo, from being a biological female and simply not questioning your gender. Likeeee.... if you're a cis person, you may not "feel" a gender either until you dig into it. Because your gender doesn't differ from your sex, so you're comfortable being referred to as your biological sex. But for me, I would prefer to not be seen as either a man or a woman.


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24 Feb 2024, 4:04 pm

colliegrace wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
Your profile states you're non-binary I never get to know what non-binary really means?

I don't identify as male or female. I am AFAB (born with female biology), but I don't consider myself a woman. Some consider gender to be a separate concept from biological sex - gender is "in your head", biological sex is outward phenotype.
For me, I'm agender. I don't "feel" like a man, but I also don't "feel" like a woman. This is different, imo, from being a biological female and simply not questioning your gender. Likeeee.... if you're a cis person, you may not "feel" a gender either until you dig into it. Because your gender doesn't differ from your sex, so you're comfortable being referred to as your biological sex. But for me, I would prefer to not be seen as either a man or a woman.


Thanks for explanation :D
I think I'm CIS gay man :)



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06 Mar 2024, 7:41 pm

hmm? I've never thought about it much, but I have read that homosexuality is more prevalent with people on the spectrum, but I have nothing to back it up with.

If I didn't have Aspergers and was a NT, I would imagine that I would still be gay.


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20 Dec 2024, 1:39 pm

I’ve often wondered if there’s a link between neurodiversity and sexual orientation, especially since I’m both neurodivergent (Asperger’s) and gay. For me, it feels like the way my brain works—thinking deeply and questioning societal norms—has played a big role in understanding my identity. I never felt the need to fit into traditional categories, and being neurodivergent almost gave me permission to explore who I am without worrying about what’s “normal.”

But it hasn’t been easy. Growing up, I faced homophobia and bullying that I didn’t fully understand at the time. I wasn’t always aware of people’s gossips or subtle ways of mocking me because I tend to miss social cues, so I figured it out much later. That realization hurt, especially because I didn’t have the tools to defend myself in the moment or even process what was happening. It made me feel even more isolated, like I was living in a different world from everyone else.

I’ve also noticed that sensory sensitivity and emotional processing have shaped my relationships. Physical and emotional closeness feels different for me, and I overthink things that seem simple to others. Social struggles, like missing cues or feeling overwhelmed in conversations, make it harder to connect with people, especially in casual or basic ways.


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21 Dec 2024, 3:15 pm

I grew up in the 1990s in Michigan (USA) and in my small town, there was a lot of homophobia. As crazy as it sounds, I had no clue I was gay but deep down I knew I wasn't into girls. Also, I had no clue I was on the spectrum. Needless to say I was "Weirdo" and had no idea why. Finding out people hated me because I exist is still a bitter pill.

My 20s were a bit of a mess, I was in a relationship with a girl and that ended badly. Oddly, the lady I was going with at that time, pointed out I was very likely autistic. Which made things come into focus, why I was such a mess socially and all the stuff that goes with autism.

Also, I realized that me trying to be "normal" wasn't working as well as discovering that deep down, I had no interest in women, in fact realizing that I was attracted men. Getting close physically and emotionally has always been different for me. It's still a struggle but I do know, the first guy I dated, when I spent the night with him and we got close the first time, Oh man did I feel that! it was amazing.


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22 Dec 2024, 4:51 am

Its an interesting topic.

There does appear to be a higher percentage of people identifying as LGBTQ+ within the Autistic community.

I sometimes wonder whether a persistent drive for authenticity with less focus on meeting social expectations within our neurotype is a key factor?

Within my family and friendship circle, all of whom are Au, there is a high level of queer identification.

I sit on the management board of the largest LGBTQ+ charity in my area of the UK and we have noted that there are a significant number of neurodivergent members and associated parties.


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22 Dec 2024, 10:00 am

Over the period of my Life have noticed a disporportionate number of my Aspie/Asperger's friends seem to tend towards gender/sexually diverse as well as NeuroDiverse. Life is full of Diversity ..And its a blessing where, we can still safely afford to express those things . Beauty is in those differences of Expression. Am hoping nothing happens to that within these next few years? And the Political Climate Where We live in,,( in the USA ) ...8O.


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22 Dec 2024, 11:42 am

Last I heard places like Texas have not passed laws prohibiting US citizens from moving to more tolerant blue states.



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02 Feb 2025, 2:05 pm

I've been coming across a lot of content on the internet about there being connections between autism spectrum disorder and gender identity, rather than sexual orientation. Since I first had access to the internet I've found an interest in those who don't particularly identify with their biological gender, and found a desire that I wish I could be like them. I'm biologically male but sometimes I will see other guys as being something that I'm not.



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02 Feb 2025, 4:17 pm

BTDT wrote:
Last I heard places like Texas have not passed laws prohibiting US citizens from moving to more tolerant blue states.

There's issues with that. For one thing you have to have the means and ability to move. Another is that if you do move in response to the local politics of where you live, that just means that the state just devolves further and further into the madness you're trying to avoid and possibly increasing the portions of the country that are subject to that as federal representatives are more likely to follow the wishes of the local voters.

Not that staying is great either, but there's little point in any state preventing people from leaving on that basis. The only folks I can see them ever wanting to prevent from leaving would be the folks with money.



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02 Feb 2025, 4:20 pm

Jutty1224 wrote:
I've been coming across a lot of content on the internet about there being connections between autism spectrum disorder and gender identity, rather than sexual orientation. Since I first had access to the internet I've found an interest in those who don't particularly identify with their biological gender, and found a desire that I wish I could be like them. I'm biologically male but sometimes I will see other guys as being something that I'm not.

To be fair, if you told people a hundred years ago what men and women are like now, they would probably have the same reaction. The concept of what is and isn't appropriate for the sexes has changed a lot, especially over the last 50 years.

If it's just sometimes, its' probably something along those lines, but I'm not even remotely in a position to tell you what's right for you as it could also be that those are times when you're less repressed. Just some food for though.



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09 Feb 2025, 2:12 am

Anything outside cultural and social contexts?

Outside of what is to do with gender and gender roles and it's expressions, at odds of what is the norm and taboo (in which NDs would likelier express their differences more openly than NTs) -- than fundamental connection of their own biological sex and it's relative reactions in sexual attraction?


I don't know.
One had to go deeper.

Like the very, very basic and fundamental; of why some people are actually attracted to the other gender or sex (other than reproduction), with same sex or gender (there are hypothesis of why this happens), any attracted towards both or any, and just others don't or is attracted towards none?

Even so, why NDs have it more likely the latter others?


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