"you're always gonna be different to everyone else"

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27 Jun 2024, 11:49 am

Did anyone ever tell you this or has it come as a shock to you as you've got older

I'm only asking because I've only just realised this myself today and I'm a bit aggrieved because no one bothered to warn me about this


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27 Jun 2024, 12:01 pm

No one told me this, I had to figure it out for myself as a preteen.


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27 Jun 2024, 12:10 pm

I'm wondering if I've only just noticed it because I dissociate so much

I'm not even exaggerating when I tell you I'm pretty much devastated right now

I'm 51 years old


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27 Jun 2024, 12:13 pm

I wonder if you've noticed before but never really let it sink in.

You know how sometimes you can be aware of something briefly but immediately forget about it?


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27 Jun 2024, 12:18 pm

I came to realize this before I even knew what ASD was, back in high school. It's been tough for sure and even at 44 it still hurts at times.


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27 Jun 2024, 12:46 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
I wonder if you've noticed before but never really let it sink in.

You know how sometimes you can be aware of something briefly but immediately forget about it?


The point I'm at at this point is that I can't even remember how I felt about myself before this realisation hit me

Its like I've literally just been surviving and not even connecting with myself for all these years. I was diagnosed about 10 years ago so I must have felt something but since then I've not thought about it....no it was 2006 when I was diagnosed so that's almost 20 years and then I joined here in 2012 or something so that must have been for a reason as well

Right I think I need to speak to my shrink about this


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27 Jun 2024, 12:46 pm

King Kat 1 wrote:
I came to realize this before I even knew what ASD was, back in high school. It's been tough for sure and even at 44 it still hurts at times.


Yeah it does hurt you're right


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27 Jun 2024, 1:39 pm

Maybe it's related to the post I made about being self aware all of a sudden

This is hard but it might be a step forward

Stay positive babybird


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27 Jun 2024, 1:49 pm

I already accepted such statement long before I was told of and longer before I was diagnosed.

I even want to be.
It's a pride thing, for me to want to be an exception from certain rules for better or for worse...

Yes, I can admit of wanting the idea of being special. My ego is that big.
Thus I got very conflicting and paradoxical reaction upon realizing that I'm different, and upon getting a diagnosis...


I like being different. Being called different. Being perceived as different.

By different meaning above certain rules and standards. That I'm beyond the bubble of majority. Less limited. Freer than thou.

But being 'disabled' (in context of inferiority)? Dismiss-able? Being accused of being in 'my own bubble' and 'limited'? I refuse.
Even if it's something everyone deals with it and thus not liking being a human.

The inverse of that statement is what I 'need' to "learn" instead.


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27 Jun 2024, 2:33 pm

If you've met one Autistic you've met one Autistic...but my response is...

For a long time I could not be diagnosed because Asperger's Syndrome was not added to the DSM until 1994, the year I turned 40.

By then I'd been muddling through life for quite some time and gotten some lucky breaks and while people thought I was "odd" (I think my Dad would've said "weird"), I was getting good at muddling. My social life was restricted but I was an Introvert (I have no idea which was cause and which was effect). Overall, I was doing OK.

I increasingly suspected (hoped?) I really was different from everyone else and that there might even be some medical support for my difference...though I had no clue what it might be. But, by that point I was just curious, I was old enough there was increasingly less need to know. When I was 58 I even persuaded my Primary Care physician to get me a genetic test (I was grasping for straws!) but it did not give me an explanation.

I certainly did not think I was Autistic. All I knew about Autism was what I'd picked up from Rain Man trailers and clips and that was nothing like me.

When I was 64 "Reality" finally dropped me a hint to at least learn about Autism. And I was diagnosed before I was 65.

I was ecstatic to finally know how I was different, even though the knowledge has very little practical value.

But it is nice to finally know I was right. Other people ("Allistics") are messed up.


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27 Jun 2024, 3:21 pm

I've been blocking it out


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27 Jun 2024, 10:50 pm

I'm sorry that you've come to a realization so suddenly that it has felt like a shock. I hope you're feeling more settled.

Is the "always" part of the thought that is such a shock? That maybe some corner of your mind thought that one day you would no longer be different? I have trouble with that, just the accepting of what is probably true, especially when I can't be 100% certain. But I think it helps, if you can do it.



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27 Jun 2024, 11:02 pm

Being married for fifteen years drove the point home.

My wife would make observations that were true.
I never stop learning. She pointed out that this is highly unusual.

I make decisions. It is easy for me to invest because of that. I've done very well financially. :D
Unfortunately she isn't around to share in that wealth, passing from a nasty disease a decade ago.
But, she was able to finish her bucket list before she passed.

Being a unicorn has its advantages.

Three months ago I had the seventy year old oil tank replaced. I just had the chimney repaired. Today I'm having the roof repaired! Since I plan to live here a couple more years I decided to fix it up before I sell it!
A lot of folks, including the couple next door, double management income, no kids, can't afford to do that.
I'm paying extra for a contractor with a reputation for doing high quality work.



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27 Jun 2024, 11:22 pm

bee33 wrote:
I'm sorry that you've come to a realization so suddenly that it has felt like a shock. I hope you're feeling more settled.

Is the "always" part of the thought that is such a shock? That maybe some corner of your mind thought that one day you would no longer be different? I have trouble with that, just the accepting of what is probably true, especially when I can't be 100% certain. But I think it helps, if you can do it.


Well all I can remember from my diagnosis is that the psychiatrist said it would get easier and then after that I got no help. I've clearly blocked the whole thing out of my mind and got on with my life. I've hardly told a sole about it and I very rarely even talk about it on here. I even though I didn't have it for years and years so it did hit me like a brick yesterday. It just came out of nowhere. I don't even know what triggered this

I'm seeing my therapist this morning so I'll talk to him about it and other things that make me "different" as well that I think I'm stuck with

Yeah it was the always part that got me


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27 Jun 2024, 11:55 pm

BTDT wrote:
Being married for fifteen years drove the point home.

My wife would make observations that were true.
I never stop learning. She pointed out that this is highly unusual.

I make decisions. It is easy for me to invest because of that. I've done very well financially. :D
Unfortunately she isn't around to share in that wealth, passing from a nasty disease a decade ago.
But, she was able to finish her bucket list before she passed.

Being a unicorn has its advantages.

Three months ago I had the seventy year old oil tank replaced. I just had the chimney repaired. Today I'm having the roof repaired! Since I plan to live here a couple more years I decided to fix it up before I sell it!
A lot of folks, including the couple next door, double management income, no kids, can't afford to do that.
I'm paying extra for a contractor with a reputation for doing high quality work.


Sorry about your wife man

I'm thinking that I've just put my diagnosis away because my daughter has autism and I've put all my energy into sorting her life out and she is sorted now and happy

I've just forgot about myself. Been working working working and not actually thinking that I'm any different to anyone else because if I think that way then I'm scared that I won't be able to survive


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28 Jun 2024, 12:00 am

That was the sort of realisation that led to me getting diagnosed.

As with others, Aspergers wasn't a diagnosis when I was a kid so I never knew what was wrong.
I just spent decades working as hard as I could at "being normal" - trying to behave like everyone else.

EVENTUALLY when I was in my late forties I FINALLY got the picture that there was a hard-wired difference and I was NEVER EVER going to reach that point of "being normal". For me it wasn't exactly a shock by that time - but it was still a hard pill to swallow.

And while I was quite happy to find out the nature of the problem was ASD, ultimately that didn't actually help me much - because there isn't really any help out there for us. Even when people believe the diagnosis, which they often don't. We just get left to try and deal with it however we can on our own.

Yes, talk about it with a psychologist or similar. That was the only thing that helped me, and even then it took time and is still something of a work in progress.