Is it so bad if a woman needs a man.

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Like I like dating my boyfriend and I dont and he doesnt want kids, if anything we are thinking of pets, is that so bad? And I respect the idea of independent woman who can do it all themselves, but idk I don't think that means its wrong for those of us who maybe do need/want a man. LIke Yes I have feminist views but for me I still need a man, women just don't have the dick you know.


So no the real truth is men are welcome, they just gotta be good men like if feminism was all about pressing men, why did Kamala choose a good down to earth man as her running mate. LIke Mr Minnesota "we help our neighbors, this is the way" LIke what a positive messege, yeah keep going with the positive messege Kamala and Tim, maybe this is how we beat the trumpers....we all gotta keep the positive and bump those facists out.

Some women may be fine on their own, but is it so wrong to still want a man you know, I see some nonsense of men arent needed, and a true feminist does not need a man. But I have some pretty feminist views but I still want a man and I got one that I would not give up. But also men aren't the problem its the wasy society gets socialized like men are oppressed too. They're supposed to not have emotions and its shameful if they cry, like wtf why does society try to deney men normal human emotions. Like in Lord of The Rings there are pleanty bits of men crying so why do people act liek that is de-masculating or whatever, idk as if men aren't allowed to have emotions like wtf, they are people to.

And Idk nothing wrong with an independent woman who does not need a man, but some of us still do really want one and its not impossible to find a good one. I think the bit thing is to juust be cautious of right leaning guys who may not respect that a uterus is part of a womens body so it should really be up to them to do what they want if pregnant even if that means an abortion. A man contributes sperm, but they have no say on if the woman wants to carry it or not....best to have these discussions before sex but accidents happen and people should be able to handle an accident without being forced to carry a child they don't want to term. LIke the burdan to carry the child is on the woman so if she feels she does not have enough support or simply does not want a child she shouold be abe to abort no questions asked since it's her body.And the right wing horror stories are false, fake news that do not describe an actual abortion, its just s**t to get teens who they theink they can brainwash easier, on the cause. I know cause I saw one of those videos and was anti abortion for a while till I leanred more about what all childbirth can entail. And then I was like wow, that is scary, no one should be forced to do this if they want to it's one thing, but count me out as I don't ever want a baby.

Last edited by Sweetleaf on 10 Aug 2024, 5:34 am, edited 1 time in total.

I don't think so at all. Man needs woman and woman needs man.

If men and women didn't need each other, they wouldn't get married.

True, also in the bit of lord of the rings were Gimily was crying cause all his dwarf brothers were killed in Moria, but I still see him as quite the manly dwarf even though he cried at the demise of his people. LIke what was he supposed to do just not care that all his brethren were wiped out? LIke nah he showed true emotion and then was still there to fight for the fellowship. Idk maybe it is just more men need to take example from some of the heroes in the Lord of the Rings Universe. But this time around its not so much for battle...juust voting blue. Which I don't know you totally agree with but well for sure the blue side is much more trans friendly as well as people in general freindly.

Sometimes people use the words interchangeably, but there’s a difference between “need” and “want.” I may really want a relationship, but I don’t need one. Life will go on if I stay single. It won’t go on if I’m denied water, oxygen, etc. With that being said, a person can still be a feminist if they want a relationship with someone of their preferred gender, if they have a preferred gender. They could even be a feminist if they need a relationship for some reason. IMO, you are a feminist if you believe in equality between the sexes and identify as one.

In a way, I can relate to men being socialized not to express their emotions or cry because I experienced that, too, but in abusive situations. It was associated with weakness, and I was mocked for it. It’s something I’ve tried to overcome.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is- ... 1030122020

I cry less than 1.9 times a month.

Feminism means women and men can love, want, or "need" partners. The difference is that they get a say in who that person is instead of having it dictated to them. They believe each person has choice and agency to date someone of the same sex, someone of a different cultural background / religion, someone their parents may not like, someone who is disabled or dirt broke from a different socioeconomic class, and the freedom to date multiple people or never settle down. They might also choose not to date anyone at all.

Within their relationship they expect to be treated fairly without gendered abuse. They can decide if they want to have sex and if they want to get married or have kids. They believe all other people should be treated this way, not just girls and women, because they know all people have equal rights.

I think that men and women would be lost without each other.

You know, *some* people are perfectly okay with being alone, they have have no problems not having a love/sexual interest, and seeing every other post on WP and elsewhere where the the op is pathetically whining about how their whole life is a failure because they don't have a bf/gf is annoying and exhausting.

It also makes my incel alarm go off, and I start to fear for the public's safety and well-being. Which it barely has enough as it is, people can't go virtually anywhere anymore without some lunatic committing mass murder. I still think it's reasonably safer where I live, though.

Almost everybody needs someone, although I suspect most would be better off choosing someone with at least 2 complete chromosomes.
The world leaves me with the impression those of us with a Y fragment aren't fully human.
I'm not sure needing someone just because they have a dick is that great an idea, but I am SO glad that it's a thing.

This song sums it up quite nicely.



You must remember this
A kiss is still a kiss
A sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by
And when two lovers woo
They still say I love you
On that you can rely
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by
Moonlight and love songs
Never out of date
Hearts full of passion
Jealousy and hate
Woman needs man
Man must have his mate
That no one can deny
It's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by
It's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by

^
Great rendition of the song!

But I cant not post the famous scene from "Casablanca".


https://youtu.be/w3ruUJSgtzY

Me & my girlfriend are both feminists & we agree with you Sweetleaf. Cass is pansexual though so she doesn't need a man but she needs to be in a relationship due to being disabled & majorly desiring emotional intimacy & affection. I'm the same way as her except I'm not interested in guys.

I think it's a bit of a misunderstanding of feminism to think that being a feminist means you don't need a man. Many people need love and companionship and they aren't not-feminist for it. The misconception is understandable because it's been one of the teachings of feminism that a woman is not incomplete or pitiable if she doesn't have a man. That's the sense in which a woman doesn't need to have a man to be a full person, but she might still need to be loved and cherished and have a companion to share her life.

I've been thinking about this thread and I think I finally understand where it is coming from.

I agree with Bee33 that there's a bit of a misunderstanding about feminism going on here.

There has been a lot of focus on being an independent woman and not needing a man. You see and hear this a lot in popular media.

This is generally what I refer to as boss babe feminism. It can come across as a little patronising.



Being single is revered as the sensible choice but only for so long. I did notice that when I came out as gay it switched from "that's a sensible decision of you to not date yet, good on you for being strong and independent" to "how come you don't have a girlfriend? Do you have no game?"

There's a weird sort of contradictory pressure on women to enter into relationships with men. It can't be your priority or something that you are actively trying to pursue.



Historically, marriage was less about romance and more about financial security and social obligation for women. Now we live in a world where women can vote, own property, have their own bank accounts, work and can live independently as equals.

Yet, despite this we still have etiquette rules rooted in history. Such as opening the door for ladies first. Back then this was a rule because women wore large gowns and it was quite cumbersome for them to collect their outfit and get the door.

Marriages and surnames are often talked about in these types of conversations. If you are a woman, your title changes when you are wed from Miss to Mrs. It's also traditional to take your husband's surname. However, this can vary by culture! In some cultures, boys are given the surname of the father and girls are given the surname of the mother.

Taking your husband's name, well it initially represented that you were no longer your father's responsibility but instead your husband's. Hence the tradition of the father walking the bride down the aisle.

I remember when I was walking around an old prison turned museum once and read about how this woman went on a murder spree and her husband was also reprimanded because she was considered his property gone rogue. That's a common theme with how history viewed women, lacking in autonomy. Which was bad for men as well.

Taking your husband's surname was also an easy way to track lineage / family lines. However, not all women do take their husband's name but choose to keep their name instead. Some husbands take their wife's name.

Unfortunately, this surname tradition has led to girls being aborted in favour of boys to continue the family name in certain countries. This led to uneven sex ratios in the population. Which in some cases has led to outright bans on parents being allowed to know the sex of a child before birth.

Sorry. I've strayed far too much from my original point. To answer your question OP, no, it's not bad to want a man and be in a happy relationship. Of course not. History has made things messy and our concept of liberation and feminism continues to grow and shift as we develop as a society.

I saw a quote online once that said, "A woman needs a man like a fish needs legs to ride a bicycle". It sounds to me like it's saying that it's better for women to stay in their own underwater world & never associate with men which would be the opposite of feminism. Is that quote making fun of feminism? I'm very confused