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18 Oct 2024, 11:03 pm

It's something I've known about myself that I am anxious and scared in general. This has made many aspects of my life difficult to handle. I'm not a big worrier, but I'm not brave and not good at handling things, from simple mundane tasks like having work done at the house to dealing with my emotions and upsetting setbacks and situations, especially dealing with other people, even if they are nice.

I grew up with anxious parents and learned to be afraid of everything.

I've been talking with my bf about developing courage. Do you think you can work on your courage and become braver? Or do you consider yourself brave?



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18 Oct 2024, 11:15 pm

I used to have an automatic freeze reaction to fear.
This let me get bullied frequently until year 9 when I kind of snapped.
It changed my response to fear, and I started courting danger. I started standing up to bullies and authority, became a reckless bike rider, skier, radio foxhunter, skater and pilot.
I certainly wouldn't label it courage... I think of it as perversity.



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19 Oct 2024, 2:30 am

I am.


Not because I'm fearless or don't react with fear. But that makes it easier.

But because I react differently towards the emotion of fear.

I knew better than whatevers caveman days' primal threats does not reflect the true consequences of the modern day era.

The same can be said with scares and superstitions. I just react differently with fear.


Well, people around me well affirmed this trait around me.

My dad's cousin was a core memory of mine before I entered school.
Then there's whatever's my complex towards my parents and my sister.

Not to mention countless times with my classmates.
I volunteer to jump first. I go ahead in the dark halls first. Big scary bully? Ain't afraid to get punched and not afraid to throw any punch.


I dunno.
It can scare people sometimes. :lol:


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19 Oct 2024, 2:35 am

Ha ha, no...for sure I do wish I could build some though but, for honesty like no I do not think I have courage and not really sure how one acquires that. I guess in fantasy movies maybe you go throuh an adventure to learn about that but in real Life I am never going to get an adventure like that to teach me about the world.


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19 Oct 2024, 5:14 am

I try and face my fears even when I'm trembling inside...I'm thinking this might mean I have bravado


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19 Oct 2024, 7:19 am

I think I have courage. It takes a lot of guts to show my love for Germany and the 1940s in the progressive world of today.


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19 Oct 2024, 8:15 am

I think you're brave


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19 Oct 2024, 3:10 pm

Often, but certainly not always.


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19 Oct 2024, 3:38 pm

I’m very timid offline, but I have demonstrated courage at key moments of my life.



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19 Oct 2024, 4:48 pm

I'm not sure about courage but I definitely have stubbornness...I think that sometimes gets the same result.


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19 Oct 2024, 9:26 pm

I just wonder (hope?) if one can somehow develop courage. Does it require facing adversity and overcoming it? Even so, my own adversity seems to have made me more scared. I feel like if bad things happen I am unable to handle them, and that makes me even more anxious that something might happen. I'd rather believe that when something comes along you deal with it, because you have to but also because you can.

Is it possible to learn to become more courageous?



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19 Oct 2024, 10:50 pm

bee33 wrote:
Is it possible to learn to become more courageous?


Yes. It requires facing adversity and overcoming it. Or even facing adversity and just getting through it.

The reality is, we do not "rise to the occasion", but rather fall to our level of experience. If our experiences are full of avoidance, we only learn to avoid. If our experiences are full of confronting and overcoming, we learn to confront and overcome.

Any adversity will do - it doesn't have to be a challenge to end all challenges - but you do have to actually up and face it, rather than try to find ways to avoid engaging it.

It's right there in the word. If you want to develop courage, then find ways to ENcourage yourself rather than DIScourage yourself.



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20 Oct 2024, 1:59 am

uncommondenominator wrote:
bee33 wrote:
Is it possible to learn to become more courageous?


Yes. It requires facing adversity and overcoming it. Or even facing adversity and just getting through it.

The reality is, we do not "rise to the occasion", but rather fall to our level of experience. If our experiences are full of avoidance, we only learn to avoid. If our experiences are full of confronting and overcoming, we learn to confront and overcome.

Any adversity will do - it doesn't have to be a challenge to end all challenges - but you do have to actually up and face it, rather than try to find ways to avoid engaging it.

It's right there in the word. If you want to develop courage, then find ways to ENcourage yourself rather than DIScourage yourself.


I am not sure though, because I have 'gotten through things' even some pretty bad things, but I can't say its ever helped me develop more courage.


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20 Oct 2024, 4:08 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
I am not sure though, because I have 'gotten through things' even some pretty bad things, but I can't say its ever helped me develop more courage.


To clarify:

When I say "face adversity", I don't mean something traumatic, and I don't mean something that didn't happen by choice. I mean reasonable obstacles that one intentionally undertakes.

If you think I meant "surviving trauma makes you brave, and the bigger the trauma the more bravery you get out of it", you are charmingly mistaken.

When I say "have to face it", I don't mean like two or three times. I mean like dozens of times, or more.

Additionally, bravery isn't an on/off switch that you either have or don't. It's not even a spectrum that you have more or less of. It's a scatter-plot, with varying degrees of bravery, across varying subjects. Someone can be brave around large dogs, but not snakes. Someone can be brave around snakes, but not on rollercoasters. Someone can be brave on rollercoasters, but not airplanes.

So it all depends on what exactly you want to be brave in the face of. Making phone calls? Going outside? Being around strangers? Being yourself? Talking to people? Speaking in front of people? Riding public transit? Whatever it is, that dictates how you approach it.

Afraid of phone calls? Start with something simple. Call a few stores and ask them their hours, maybe twice a week (different stores). That's it. Afraid of taking the bus? Take a bus from the nearest bus stop to the very next bus stop, so you're still only a few blocks away, do this a few times a week. Afraid to be yourself? Pick one small thing you can do or show or display, and try it out - not one or twice, but a few dozen times - not everyone may like it, but if you try it 20 times, and 18 people are cool with it, good. And if you try something 10 times, and 8 don't like it, stop, try something else.

Fear usually comes from unfamiliarity - if you haven't done it much, you don't know what to expect. In the absence of knowledge or experience, imagination takes over, where the worst of things can and do usually happen, in an anxious mind. If you do it dozens of times, hundreds of time, it's no longer unfamiliar, and you have a better idea of what to expect, having done it. Whatever you do, however small, just keep doing it, and edging it forward, bit by bit.



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20 Oct 2024, 6:43 am

babybird wrote:
I think you're brave


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20 Oct 2024, 8:36 am

I don't know how I learnt the trait.

Only that I observed that I have a lot of experience between the stark contrasts of fear and not-fear, whether rational or irrational.


And I was practically raised and socialized to have it.

Thus I ended up having more than one sources of courage than just the desire of being able to take opportunity or freedom from fear itself dictating my actions.
It's not just the desire to do right alone, it's not just attachment alone, it's not just faith, assurance and belief alone.

Also ended up with several approaches to straight up handling several types of fears whether overt and covert, and not-really-fear-but-it-will-lead-to-it.
No exposure therapy needed when I'm consciously facing it head on and figuring it out the abstracts of how such emotions and sensations influences my thoughts and actions.

And then being able to identify true courage from false forms like apathy, shamelessness, overall lack of fear, etc. another contrasts that I do experience from time to time.
It's not as simple as seeking safety and unsafety, but how one would perceive it.


The only times I 'act like a coward', is when there's something seriously wrong with me and it takes way more to scare or put fear on me.

Like having to deal with several things like overwhelmed while being seriously sick, head full of nothing but dissonance and doubt, too vulnerable, and just being over my reasonable limit in which I really can't and actually needed something safe, too tired to deal with unsafety because I have an innate sense of self preservation.


Else, my instincts in base can feel fear all it wants, but the reflex of my rebellious conscious and personality will go like 'lol screw that warning! The heck is it actually about??' and walk through it head on.



Unlike most autistics, apparently, my main problems with emotion isn't fear, but boredom and aggression.
The latter is a trauma response that's been recently solving rather quickly as I age now.

It's the former I'm trying to figure it out now, to a point that it will willfully put me into a direction of fear and anxiety just because.

And no, that's not courage.
That's boredom and stimuli craving because state of safety is boring.


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