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07 Nov 2024, 10:34 pm

America wasn't ready for another black president, but it was ready for an orange president to return to office.



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07 Nov 2024, 11:06 pm

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America wasn't ready for another black president, but it was ready for an orange president to return to office.


Or a woman. I'm sure conservatives are pasting Hillary Clinton's and Kamala Harris's faces on pictures of stereotypical 1950s housewives, because that's the only occupation conservatives think women should have.


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08 Nov 2024, 12:20 am

Americans just showed they don't mind child rapists in power.


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08 Nov 2024, 12:35 am

I don't want another white, cishet, Christian male to hold public office in the US.


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08 Nov 2024, 12:39 am

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I don't want another white, cishet, Christian male to hold public office in the US.


Why do you hate Tim Walz all of a sudden?


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08 Nov 2024, 12:53 am

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I don't want another white, cishet, Christian male to hold public office in the US.


Why do you hate Tim Walz all of a sudden?


I don't hate him, but I want a scenario where no matter who is president, any criticism or disrespect of the person would constitute bigotry--be it sexism, racism, LGBTQ-phobia, etc.


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08 Nov 2024, 12:56 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I don't want another white, cishet, Christian male to hold public office in the US.


Why do you hate Tim Walz all of a sudden?


I don't hate him, but I want a scenario where no matter who is president, any criticism or disrespect of the person would constitute bigotry--be it sexism, racism, LGBTQ-phobia, etc.


Would your religious bigotry and pro-racial discrimination views also be illegal, or would those biases be protected?


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08 Nov 2024, 6:57 am

Look how Obama was treated.

People were hanging effigies of him, Congress was obstructing him at every turn (most notably the Senate nomination of Merrick Garland--yet all three of Trump's appointees would be fast tracked), people were comparing his wife to a "gorilla", even going after his daughters.

And this doesn't even count the belief that he was a Muslim born in Kenya.

Then there's Hillary Clinton:

The whole thing about her e-mails and her handling of Benghazi. Yet male officials in the same situation that HRC was accused of being in were given a full pass.

Trump's "nasty woman" remark. A congressman (who happens to be *my* congressman) defended him, saying "sometimes a lady needs to be told when she's nasty"


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08 Nov 2024, 10:13 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
Look how Obama was treated.

People were hanging effigies of him, Congress was obstructing him at every turn (most notably the Senate nomination of Merrick Garland--yet all three of Trump's appointees would be fast tracked), people were comparing his wife to a "gorilla", even going after his daughters.

And this doesn't even count the belief that he was a Muslim born in Kenya.

Then there's Hillary Clinton:

The whole thing about her e-mails and her handling of Benghazi. Yet male officials in the same situation that HRC was accused of being in were given a full pass.

Trump's "nasty woman" remark. A congressman (who happens to be *my* congressman) defended him, saying "sometimes a lady needs to be told when she's nasty"


You have a point on Obama, but he was the first and at some point there will be more black Presidents, but you act like there isn't a history of some pretty disgusting rhetoric going back to just about the earliest US Presidential elections with candidates being literally accused of eating babies.

As far as HRC goes, she ran purely on the basis of being a woman and chased away those pesky "Bernie Bros" that she wasn't interested in. It was a sexist position to take, but not suprising given that she was the source of the racist "Obama Boys" in 2008 when she lost and she never had popular support even within the Democratic party.

This is all way over-wrought and does nothing to address anything that could be useful going forward. The next few years are going to be very "interesting" as both parties are forced to realign as the status quo has broken to the point where it really doesn't work for 90% of the population.



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08 Nov 2024, 1:39 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
TheNet wrote:
America wasn't ready for another black president, but it was ready for an orange president to return to office.


Or a woman. I'm sure conservatives are pasting Hillary Clinton's and Kamala Harris's faces on pictures of stereotypical 1950s housewives, because that's the only occupation conservatives think women should have.

They are not ok with prostitution and porn actress?


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