What are your gifts of the Holy Spirit as a Christian

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06 Dec 2024, 7:32 pm

I am posting this as I am interested in this topic. I am wondering what are your gifts of the Holy Spirit as a Christian and how does this work in your life. I am diagnosed with autism and have other co conditions. This thread is intended for Christians or those interested in the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

I have been a Christian all my life really, but found my own path at 16. I was given one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit at 17. (1 Corinthiana 1-31) lists the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

I do wonder how autistic experiences of like the gift of prophecy vision may dffer comparing to neurotypical and neurodivergent experiences. I have written about my experiences and they are in my signature save to putting them all here. Mine was the gift of prophecy which has mainly focused around sight. I haven't been a minister in the church though. It was done mainly to protect me in life and I did serve in the church briefly.

There are I believe 9 Gifts of the Holy Spirit and they all are wonderful gifts from God and said God said that we are not to covert anyone else's gifts.

My gifts given by God are a part of me now, I've had mine since 17. I cannot link a video on Youtube about the gifts of the Holy Spirit as I do not have enough posts yet.


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09 Dec 2024, 12:44 am

Hi, Miss Rachel. :)

Is this the relevant Scripture... 1 Cor. 12:8-10?

https://bible.usccb.org/bible/1corinthi ... =#54012001

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8 To one is given through the Spirit the expression of wisdom; to another the expression of knowledge according to the same Spirit;
9 to another faith by the same Spirit; to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit;
10 to another mighty deeds; to another prophecy; to another discernment of spirits; to another varieties of tongues; to another interpretation of tongues.


I'm afraid there seem to be few Christians on these forums. Your thread is a very interesting one, even if it has received little attention so far.

To answer your questions, I believe my gift to be Faith (I have known of God's existence since late toddlerhood, despite growing up in a secular, unchurched family).

How does it work in my life? It is everything, it is everywhere; I am thankful for every experience I have, even if I cannot immediately see the benefit. I am hopelessly optimistic.



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09 Dec 2024, 12:57 am

The sad thing about claiming gifts of the Holy Spirit is that there is no way for the claimant to prove his or her claims.

Gift of Healing?  It seems that only "invisible" health issues are ever "healed" -- never anything visible like a missing eye or limb.  Of course, there are also those "Healers" who claim 100% success, only for the "patient" to die soon after from the same disease that the "Healer" supposedly cured.

Gift of Prophesy?  Repeating Bible verses or stories already told in the Bible should not count as "Prophesy", especially when the so-called "Prophesies" are vague, ambiguous, and couched in such convoluted language that they could apply to virtually any situation that the so-called "Prophet" claims.

Gift of Tongues? "Immagonnahoponnamyyamaha" could mean anything from "Jesus Loves You" to the speaker planning a motorcycle trip.


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09 Dec 2024, 1:22 am

Fnord wrote:
The sad thing about claiming gifts of the Holy Spirit is that there is no way for the claimant to prove his or her claims.


This might explain why Sacred Tradition, among Catholics, defines the Gifts of the Holy Spirit as:

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print ... oly-spirit

-- Wisdom is both the knowledge of and judgment about “divine things” and the ability to judge and direct human affairs according to divine truth.

-- Understanding is penetrating insight into the very heart of things, especially those higher truths that are necessary for our eternal salvation—in effect, the ability to “see” God.

-- Counsel allows a man to be directed by God in matters necessary for his salvation.

-- Fortitude denotes a firmness of mind in doing good and in avoiding evil, particularly when it is difficult or dangerous to do so, and the confidence to overcome all obstacles, even deadly ones, by virtue of the assurance of everlasting life.

-- Knowledge is the ability to judge correctly about matters of faith and right action, so as to never wander from the straight path of justice.

-- Piety is, principally, revering God with filial affection, paying worship and duty to God, paying due duty to all men on account of their relationship to God, and honoring the saints and not contradicting Scripture. The Latin word pietas denotes the reverence that we give to our father and to our country; since God is the Father of all, the worship of God is also called piety.

-- Fear of God is, in this context, “filial” or chaste fear whereby we revere God and avoid separating ourselves from him—as opposed to “servile” fear, whereby we fear punishment.

Mine, in this context, is the last one.



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09 Dec 2024, 2:06 am

Devoted wrote:
Fnord wrote:
The sad thing about claiming gifts of the Holy Spirit is that there is no way for the claimant to prove his or her claims.
This might explain why Sacred Tradition...
"Sacred Tradition" means nothing more than "The way we have always been taught in church."

The definitions you provided are just that -- definitions, which prove nothing.

Your belief is strong, but mere belief proves nothing.


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09 Dec 2024, 10:37 am

Fnord wrote:
The definitions you provided are just that -- definitions, which prove nothing.

Your belief is strong, but mere belief proves nothing.


My apologies; I didn't realize this thread was for proving anything.

I'm relatively new here, and am still learning which topics go where. In the future, would discussions like this (sharing experiences, not debating) be more appropriate for The Haven?

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09 Dec 2024, 10:47 am

 ! Cornflake wrote:
The Haven is primarily for people seeking help; starting this thread in PPR is the appropriate location.

Having said that, would any subsequent respondents please note that this is not the thread for challenges or debate - there are already plenty of threads covering that.

Leave this thread alone and let it be exclusively what the title requests.


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09 Dec 2024, 11:02 am

Excellent, thank you for the clarification, Cornflake. :heart:



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09 Dec 2024, 11:26 am

Thank you Cornflake ....think relgious freedom applied in the USA ..Sometimes.?
Being made aware that the concept of gifts from the holy Spirit .Is a strong one and a strong basis for belief in
those same faiths . And Perspectives based on that.


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09 Dec 2024, 12:01 pm



Ever Notice How Children Before They Learn
To Speak Smile at Other Children From a Distance

And Light the Room
Up For All Those Capable
of Feeling the Light Generating Within...

Ever Notice How Grandma Entering A Holiday
Fest of Food Makes the Room Warmer in The Winter

Just by Her
Presence

Entering

Our Being 'Feeling' Us Up...

Ever Participate in a Gospel Singing in
A Church Feeling Like You are Part of the

Whole Group Elevating A Feeling oF LiGHT Deep Within

(Even Famous 'Atheist' Sam Harris Admits This 'Spirit' is Real)

RiSinG

As LoVE iN Peace

Speaks Far Beyond

Words Deep Within...

Ever Feel a First Love

Sharing With Eyes that Go

No Lower Than Connecting Higher...

Ever Witness Your Parent Dying the Deafening Sound

After Their Last Breath With the Epiphany That Their LoVE iN Peace

is Now Yours To Breathe

And Spread Wherever You

Go in Your Breathing Days Now....

Indeed This is the Holy Spirit We All

May Give Share Care Heal For ALL iT Flows With

Most Respect And Least Harm Yes One Will Find it

True in a Christian
Church as i've Surely

Felt This Deep Communion
Much Larger Than i am as Only

An Individual Human Singing

As A Whole Church Becomes One Voice

oF LiGHT
RiSinG Beyond
The Confines of 'me'...

True This Experience May
Be Felt as A Communion Tween
Young Women at a Taylor Swift Concert...

Perhaps Among the Men too With SMiLes

Deeper
Than
Only
Transient Lust...

The Holy Spirit is Beyond
All Measure of Science As

Even Scientists Have No Choice Yet to Admit

Who at Least Understand the Study of Human LoVE iN Peace...

The Holy SPiRiT is the
LiGHT of the World

Humans Do Bring

(As 'Saint Francis
of Assisi' Suggested Other
Animals Share this Gift too

i Surely Feel This too Sadly
Often Deeper than Some Humans

Are Able to do Our Pets

May Even Show US 'A Way')

And Is Surely Not Limited
By Any Symbol or Ideology Alone

Humans
Attempt

to Own Alone

Yet of Course
only in my small view

From the Back Row of
A Catholic Church Leading
The Choir ThiS WaY Far Beyond Words

As Every
Human in
The Choir
oF LiGHT Naturally Does...

At
Best
With SMiLes...

'Here i Am...'

Some Folks in Many
Churches i've Attended
Suggest i Have the Gift of
'The Holy Spirit' When i Sing...

And even when i Dance Solo
Sober in a Dance Hall

Full of Other Wise

Intoxicated

Humans...

i'll Let 'You'
Be the Judge
of that too With SMiLes

'Here i am'...

A Devotion to
Lifting Others Up

Is A Most Noble
Calling and Vocation For Real

And True It Does Require A 'Holy
Spirit' for a Best Case Study Life to

Do It...

Yet it is Essence
NEVER only limited to Form...

A Best PArt of A Holy Spirit in Our Gardens Waters Waves Oceans oF
LoVE iN Peace is it is Unlimiting to How Far We May GRow Our LiGHT..:)



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09 Dec 2024, 11:06 pm

^^^ Lovely Peace of Prose ^^^^

preferred the word Peace over piece, intentional error.


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09 Dec 2024, 11:36 pm

Jakki wrote:
^^^ Lovely Peace of Prose ^^^^

preferred the word Peace over piece, intentional error.



Thank You Much
Dear Jakki With
SMiLes..:)


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10 Dec 2024, 1:06 am

Yes, that is the same thing. I just included a bit more for those who may be interested and never heard about it to read more on it for understanding.

What I find interesting as well is that some people say autistic people cannot have a faith unless they see something for themelves. I think for some people having something more personal from the Gifts of the Holy Spirit might make it easier for them to believe.

Your post was very interesting and humbling to read, thank you for post it.

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Hi, Miss Rachel. :)

Is this the relevant Scripture... 1 Cor. 12:8-10?

https://bible.usccb.org/bible/1corinthi ... =#54012001

Quote:
8 To one is given through the Spirit the expression of wisdom; to another the expression of knowledge according to the same Spirit;
9 to another faith by the same Spirit; to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit;
10 to another mighty deeds; to another prophecy; to another discernment of spirits; to another varieties of tongues; to another interpretation of tongues.


I'm afraid there seem to be few Christians on these forums. Your thread is a very interesting one, even if it has received little attention so far.

To answer your questions, I believe my gift to be Faith (I have known of God's existence since late toddlerhood, despite growing up in a secular, unchurched family).

How does it work in my life? It is everything, it is everywhere; I am thankful for every experience I have, even if I cannot immediately see the benefit. I am hopelessly optimistic.



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10 Dec 2024, 1:24 am

I would agree with you and say that really these things are given more authenticity when they are supported by someone else. For example if someone was working in the Church and given a message from God and given meaning to by someone else the witness of that second person is important. For example someone could receive healing by a minister using the gifts of healing and someone else could speak of their healing.

It is a personal experience as well but it is best iniated by support of others and then becomes more a personal experience.

There is some research that autistics have increased somasensory expereicnes. This I find very interesting. Meaning that at base they are more sensory so with an additional sensory gift on top may give them a different experience of it. For example that some may have a gift but being more sensory could cause to see it all the time rather than just seeing for when in use. That is one thing i am wondering about and giving them a deeper expeirence.
i forgot to comment on this but like Devoted has commented it is something they see all the time. Now I have no idea on this and i am just wondering and curious as well.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10 ... 18.1548374

Fnord wrote:
The sad thing about claiming gifts of the Holy Spirit is that there is no way for the claimant to prove his or her claims.