USA to be first western country to have no Dept of Education

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Well trump/Musk bizzare initiatives continue.
U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he would like to close the U.S. Department of Education using an executive order but acknowledged he would need buy-ins from Congress and teachers' unions to fulfill his campaign pledge to do so.

The Education Department has been high on Trump's list of targets. A White House official said an executive order expected to be issued later in February would direct the secretary of education to work to close the department.

Trump said he would "like to be able" to close the department with an executive order alone. Congress would need to pass legislation to shut down the department, however.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-02-04/

this would make the US the only western country in the world without an federal education department. I never saw this one coming.

Part of Project '25 includes throwing librarians and teachers in jail and requiring them to register as sex offenders if they have books about gender and sexuality in their libraries.

If I were them, I would be looking for books about how to break out of prison, and how to remove and disable ankle bracelets.

Joseph Goebbels would be impressed by these laws

I think this is the fascist tactic of make people stupider, by banning actual education and only allowing indoctrination. They are already creating a department to protect Christian rights and stop all us non Christian people who are always violently storming capital buildings. Somehow those peaceful protests across all 50 states are concerning violence but January 6th where they literally stormed the capital...no big deal. (donald trump voice) 'I don't know about january 6th but I know these 'liberal' 'leftists' are getting violent they're gathering I don't like these protests, shut it down'.

George Orwell predicted this. If you limit what people read its easier to control the masses. trump is exactly like the character of Napoleon in "Animal Farm", wins his followers over with slogans and empty promises.

Donald "Pumpkin" Trump is just being a d-bag even more.

He doesn't care about anybody but himself, so who here thinks the US will slowly
become even more like the US depicted in Mike Judge's film Idiocracy?

Me!

They're trying to recreate 1950s America (or rather, a fantasy version of it). For some people, it was a great time. For others, it was no better than Nazi Germany.

The average American seemed a bit smarter in the 50s.
It's all going to be downhill from here

My rule regarding the 50s: Live your life in a way that Joe McCarthy would have you blacklisted.

We can't wait until 2028. We have to get him out the same way we've done with dictators in the past--a classic coup d'etat.

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To bad this site does not have a vomit emoji, because if it did that is the response I would have put in response to this title.

The USA hates intelligence and it's not hard to see why. Being stupid and ignorant is instantaneous. Intelligence and learning take effort. Who has time for that when they spend 20 hours a day on Tiktok?

Kids have chatGPt and google gemini to do their thinking/reading for them so they can spend more time on tik tok

Yay!

It will be great to see the focus on core subjects return. Until such time parents are wise to home school, if their finances permit. Contrary to claims made by the Gates Foundation, Math is not racist, Math is what you put into it. If it's not a priority, that isn't racist.
As it stands right now, kids who score a 30 out of a possible 100 cannot receive a score lower than a 69. What exactly does that communicate? The student flunked a little, but not a lot, and the little flunk is really a lie? I don't believe they even see a 69 as flunking anymore, but rather a D. So, the kid really flunks miserably, but the educational system can't reflect that honestly. How is that helping the student in the long run? It isn't.
Bring back the 5th grade Human Growth and Development classes provided by medical professionals at the local health departments. Just the facts... No 'feels'... Leave any elaboration to the parents.
Guidance counselors should offer resources, I include this because we had an experience where one was way out of bounds. Just as church and state should remain separate, so should education and family/social. If the child shows up with bruises, that's one thing. But don't tell them that you think they're gay (the counselor was also gay) just because they're having a bad day. This was our experience. Our granddaughter with the "guidance" (grooming?) of the school counselor, came out as "gay" in the 8th grade. We said nothing contrary, we supported her. After having a girlfriend for a year and moving onto high school, guess what? She wasn't gay. The school is there to educate, not indoctrinate. Give my children and grandchildren the ability to think, not think the way they think they should think.
The DOE has forgotten it's place, because there are so many absent and/or irresponsible parents we've made it easy for them. But, there was no DOE when the US began, there was no DOE for the First Nations People. Their children were doing great until we came along and ruined everything. And if your continent had/has an indigenous population, no matter how advanced you believe your thinking to be, don't fool yourselves. Those people were doing just fine until you came along too.
I'm very happy about the proposed plan to dismantle the Department Of Education.

Have you watched Order of the Phoenix (one of the two best episodes of HP the other being the half-blood prince). Delores Umbridge the pro-Voldermort headmistress was sent from the ministry to shut down Hogwarts school and completely overhaul the curriculum. She said "Things at Hogwarts are far worse than I feared" in "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," signifying her exaggerated perception of chaos at Hogwarts, which she uses as justification to implement her strict and cruel disciplinary methods. By claiming Hogwarts is in a terrible state, Umbridge establishes herself as the necessary authority figure to "fix" the problems, allowing her to exert excessive control over students.

Guess what, the Nazis did exactly the same to german education and so did trump. In all these examples the intention is the same. Make exaggerated claims that are out of proportion with reality in order to interfere with the education system to indoctrinate the next generation. It's the opposite of making students think for themselves.

Thanks for minimizing my granddaughter's experience. I bet if she had been shut down by the counselor for something she didn't like, rather than encouraged by the counselor to be something she also was, you would be much more outraged. My granddaughter doesn't consider that year to be something that was necessary to get her to the point she is now. The problem with schools is they think everything is their lane.