Star Wars vs. Star Trek ?

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I'm new this summer to owning a PC but I'm surprised at how many of thethe Science Fiction fans on the web are Anti Star Trek or Pro Star Wars or vice versa. (?)

Can anybody shed some light on this to me?

My attention span doesn't go to movies, they're too long, too bright, too loud, etc. Also Star Trek is dear to my heart, the first one.

Star Wars...hands down, but I like Star Trek too. I don't get mixed up in the silly battles some have. Most people in my Star Wars Collecting Club also love Star Trek and we have a forum on their to discuss Star Trek and other sci-fi series.

Better? By what criteria? By what standard? Both have there strengths and weaknesses, and were products of different creators with different visions. Without a criteria, this is just w*king.

w*king is fun.


I go with star trek, but only
the original show. The acting,
the special effects, it all added
up to something so magical.

I like Star Trek better, they are both good but they are different, I like the idea of being the future earth, the federation and this galaxy a lot more than stories from a far away galaxy that had nothing to do with earth.

StarWars Plz.

Han Solo can kick Kirk's ass.

I wasn't really all that inerested in actually finding out who thought what was better , more so I wanted to get fans to start talking. I watched a lot of YouTube videos and was surprised.
It was pretty amazing, Lego Star Trek vs Star Wars. Reedlits of the films to new lines.
One issue a lot of fans debated over was in terms of military might. And then of course The Federation vs The Empire.
Why not Klingons vs Jedi? Or Pacleds vs Gungans?
But like I said a lot of folks were getting heated up. I thought wer'e all Sci Fi fans? But maybe it was good natured ribbing like Pittsburg Football fans vs Cincinnati fans.

Ok I'll put myself out here. As a movie I think Star Wars remains amazing. The way the movie was put together, the Fx genius, the designers and especially the sound effects. But as a story its like a kids cartoon. If you read it ( I did, only way to find out about the Ancorhead scene )it was pretty dull, and it was novelized by lucas.
If you look at Comics, toys and fantasy everything dates pre and post Star Wars. Sometimes I wonder where things would be in the entertainment biz if SW had never happened. After SW we got a HUGE series of big budget family themed films, none of which would have been invested in if not for SW.
BUT, Star Wars did what generations of Science Fiction authors had been trying to fix. It took sci fi back to a nonintellectual "Flash Gordon" kind of adventure. Remember sci fi conventions used to be a bunch of eggheads getting together debating the future and trading short stories.
Star Trek is a whole different animal. It's not fantasy. It's contributions to culture are a little different. It gave Sci Fi fans a bigger audience, they stepped up the conventions, costuming. Alot of early fans went on to contribute to tech development.( Remeber Uhura and Spocks blue tooths?) I remember watching The Next Generation when it first came on. Out of all the crazy stuff the one thing I just couldn't swallow was touch screen controls. Now look where we are.

Will a fan help contribute to the development of a lightsaber one day? Who knows?

Deep Space Nine was good. Oto is an Aspie I think.

I voted for Star Trek.

Tim

Cool, now the score is a tie. Who shall now break it?

Star Trek is the better SciFi IMO, since I don't consider Star Wars to be SciFi anyway.
SciFi is a genre that involves speculations based on current or future science or technology and how it affects people and society and generally fall within the borders of what canbe explained by science.

Star Wars is not SciFi, but is more reminiscent of fantasy.

You have funky technology (lightsabers) and space travel, but that's not what makes something SciFi.
On the other hand, you have the classical fantasy motif of good and evil (dark/light side of the force), it's champions, the good knights (Jedi), the evil knights (Sith), with their powerful swords (lightsabers), magic (the force), wizards (Yoda and other Jedi masters), rogues (Han Solo, etc.), larger than life characters, places and monsters that really have nothing to do with science, all set a long time ago in a land... ahem... galaxy... far, far away.

In fact, while SciFi usually tries to explain the technology (Star Trek explanations are notoriously convoluted, but they're still existent), Star Wars makes no efforts to explain or elaborate on the inner workings of a light saber, death star, hyperdrive, ships, machines, alien anatomy, why blasters can't shoot straight, why storm trooper armor is about as effective as a news paper, or just how the hell gungans survived natural selection.

Darth Vader doesn't care whether the planet he's about to blow up is class M or not.

Well the old question comes back Federation vs Empire

Take an average Starfleet Captain and a run of the Mill Star Destroyer commander.

Lets put it in a timespot say movie era Trek and Empire SW.

Then lets try to ignore the tech advantages. If thats possible, or comprimise.

I'd say the sdvantage goes to starfleet because thier captains are trained to have some independant thought and creativity which puts a dictatorships minions at a disadvantage.

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Tough one... I like both quite a lot. I have to go with Star Wars, though, just because I grew up with it and it was one of my early "obsessions." That said, I think that Star Trek generally features better characters, better storytelling, and makes a lot more logical and moral sense. So I guess Star Wars appeals more to my gut and Star Trek appeals more to my brain.