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20 Mar 2025, 12:25 pm

The Autism community have been pretty marginalized over the puzzle piece symbol for nearly 2 decades. The rainbow logo seems to better represent Autism as a whole, but it's also associated with the lgbtq community as well which makes some of us a bigger target for bullying if we're heterosexual.

If you guys seen my thread on the news section, there was a 10 year old boy who almost took his own life because some jerk called him a gay slur and said he should kys. Most neurotypicals are still ignorant about autism, so the rainbow logo to them is only assoicated with the gay community.

I'm not saying don't reply Autism at all, but I feel better marketing is needed to ensure better accommodations for ASD individuals.



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20 Mar 2025, 12:38 pm

No, bullies want to divide marginalized groups into smaller groups so they can pick them off one by one.
First get laws passed targeting the smallest groups. Then expand the coverage of the laws.

People on the spectrum are the most likely targets because of our poor social skills.

Marketing won't help with accommodations.
Autism is too complicated for NT managers for them understand.



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20 Mar 2025, 12:50 pm

Why should there be a logo in the first place? I don't know but it seems like people in these marketing departments or whatever, seem to get it wrong with so many stuff. Like there is such a disconnect with reality.

TBH, I am gay myself but I'm not the biggest fan of the pride flag because of all the stereotypes it symbolizes. The puzzle piece I can't stand as I don't like the idea I need to be " made normal" or " cured". Which is what Autism Speaks is all about and all there other noted BS.

Symbols, stereotypes, and things just make life worse IMO. As so many, at least here in the US are so brainwashed, stupid, and just angry at the things they shouldn't be angry about, but not at the things they should be. If that makes sense.


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20 Mar 2025, 1:03 pm

King Kat 1 wrote:
Why should there be a logo in the first place? I don't know but it seems like people in these marketing departments or whatever, seem to get it wrong with so many stuff. Like there is such a disconnect with reality.

TBH, I am gay myself but I'm not the biggest fan of the pride flag because of all the stereotypes it symbolizes. The puzzle piece I can't stand as I don't like the idea I need to be " made normal" or " cured". Which is what Autism Speaks is all about and all there other noted BS.

Symbols, stereotypes, and things just make life worse IMO. As so many, at least here in the US are so brainwashed, stupid, and just angry at the things they shouldn't be angry about, but not at the things they should be. If that makes sense.
I agree. I'm not a fan of needing a logo so people can bandwagon over my disability. I still thought the glasses were cool, but because of the times we live in. I wouldn't wear a rainbow colored glasses in most settings, but like a rainbow infinite symbol with the word autism would be helpful to ensure you're not trying to make a political statement.



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20 Mar 2025, 3:27 pm

mwalker1996 wrote:
The Autism community have been pretty marginalized over the puzzle piece symbol for nearly 2 decades. The rainbow logo seems to better represent Autism as a whole, but it's also associated with the lgbtq community as well which makes some of us a bigger target for bullying if we're heterosexual.

If you guys seen my thread on the news section, there was a 10 year old boy who almost took his own life because some jerk called him a gay slur and said he should kys. Most neurotypicals are still ignorant about autism, so the rainbow logo to them is only assoicated with the gay community.

I'm not saying don't reply Autism at all, but I feel better marketing is needed to ensure better accommodations for ASD individuals.


The problem is bigots are not that smart, ignorant NT teen bigots even dumber, they`ll see the Rainbow flag and wont know the difference between autism and LGBT association.

Expect a lot of bullying and a lot more stress and suicide because of it than would otherwise have happened.

Whats wrong with a puzzle piece anyway does the world really care? have autistic people not got bigger problems like losing access to welfare? if you live in the UK. What about autistic people being locked up for decades in a mental hospital?, again if you live in UK.

Then Trump if you live in US

Hundreds of thousands of autistic people facing poverty, and possible homelessness and being locked up, stressed out bullied, driven to suicide and people worried about a stupid picture of a puzzle :roll:


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20 Mar 2025, 3:38 pm

The puzzle pieces is an Autism Speaks thing, so why would we want to support that anyway?

I think the infinity symbol is a great representation for us, and now more are using butterflies too:

https://autismlearningpartners.com/symbols-for-autism/

https://the-art-of-autism.com/why-i-no- ... creations/


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20 Mar 2025, 4:25 pm

Unfortunately, I think that if autism had a different symbol or colour, he still would have likely been harassed. The bullies would have just called him a different slur and told him the same. Unless they didn't pick up on the symbolism.

I know that seems brutal but bullies are brutal. Reminds me of when, growing up, I saw a kid be attacked because his white socks had turned pink (due to a laundry incident at home). Bullies pick on whatever they can.


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20 Mar 2025, 4:47 pm

mwalker1996 wrote:
The Autism community have been pretty marginalized over the puzzle piece symbol for nearly 2 decades. The rainbow logo seems to better represent Autism as a whole, but it's also associated with the lgbtq community as well which makes some of us a bigger target for bullying if we're heterosexual.

If you guys seen my thread on the news section, there was a 10 year old boy who almost took his own life because some jerk called him a gay slur and said he should kys. Most neurotypicals are still ignorant about autism, so the rainbow logo to them is only assoicated with the gay community.

I'm not saying don't reply Autism at all, but I feel better marketing is needed to ensure better accommodations for ASD individuals.


I can only speak for myself on this. I like to see the full spectrum of color in all things, so both logos match that part of me because of the diversity of color. Also, I actually like real puzzles and I also understand what you are saying about autism not needing to be seen as something to be cured.

I also consider myself a member of the LGBTQ+ community because I see beauty in everyone, even if I’m not looking for romantic relationships. I was heterosexual most of my life but I had a lot of gay and lesbian friends too. I went through various relationships and realized later in life that I’m attracted to everyone but I don’t want to be touched by anyone anymore. My life has been complicated because I’m an empath, but it has been rich because I can see the value in all colors (both autism and LGBTQ+ logos). I will fight and defend both groups as needed because they are one and the same to me….people who are different from the NT script with a mission to help the world to understand us better. This is the message that the kids need to hear from us.

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20 Mar 2025, 6:46 pm

I believe puzzle pieces are the "logo" most-associated with Autism. I'm fine with that.

I favor multiple pieces correctly put-together. That is, a puzzle solved, not a failure to solve a puzzle.


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20 Mar 2025, 8:42 pm

I don’t like the puzzle logo because I am a human not a puzzle piece.

Beyond it’s not the puzzle logo I don’t have much feelings either way towered the rainbow logo. Since such a high percentage are LBTQIA+ I guess it makes sense.


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21 Mar 2025, 4:33 pm

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I don’t like the puzzle logo because I am a human not a puzzle piece.
I agree. That's why I'm not too crazy about the symbol of a singled puzzle piece. It is soooo incomplete.

An assembled puzzle I'm OK with. Sort of like a successful resolution of a complex puzzle (me!).


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23 Mar 2025, 7:55 am

as far as I am concerned people can call themselves what they want and use whatever symbol they want. I don't have to like it, I don't have to support it. I can call myself what I want to and represent myself any way I choose as well.
People on the spectrum will never march in lockstep about definition, representation, the way to supporting and understanding ourselves and others, etc because people vary too much as individuals. Any time you have 2 or more people in a room you have politics. Forcing one's will on another never , ever, works for long.


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23 Mar 2025, 8:09 pm

autisticelders wrote:
as far as I am concerned people can call themselves what they want and use whatever symbol they want. I don't have to like it, I don't have to support it. I can call myself what I want to and represent myself any way I choose as well.
People on the spectrum will never march in lockstep about definition, representation, the way to supporting and understanding ourselves and others, etc because people vary too much as individuals. Any time you have 2 or more people in a room you have politics. Forcing one's will on another never , ever, works for long.


Very true.



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25 Mar 2025, 1:54 pm

I think we should look for acceptance, not awareness. I use the infinity symbol and a cross since I'm a Catholic Christian.


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