Ancient underground structure found under Pyramid

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22 Mar 2025, 4:57 am

A group of international researchers with a background in engineering/remote sensing have used LIDAR to reveal a kilometres deep structure under the great pyramid which includes what appears to be giant coils and what appear to be advanced technology
https://greekcitytimes.com/2025/03/22/s ... ng-debate/

the story is so incredible it's been picked up by Joe Rogan


Attempts to publish the Lidar output seem to have been quashed very quickly even before the data could be examined
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pyram ... tructures/

A number of podcasters are claiming there is a concerted attempt to discredit the story and perhaps hide the evidence.



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22 Mar 2025, 5:31 am

Are we so close to discovering Sirian technology?


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22 Mar 2025, 1:39 pm

cyberdora wrote:
the story is so incredible it's been picked up by Joe Rogan


I love that sentence.


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22 Mar 2025, 3:06 pm

cyberdora wrote:
the story is so incredible it's been picked up by Joe Rogan


When you want to peddle humbug to a large audience with zero critical thinking ability, it's the ideal platform.


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22 Mar 2025, 3:28 pm

Lidar maps ground surface by reflecting laser light. It cannot map underground features. Even gpr, ground penetrating radar, would be unable to remotely map structures kilometers deep.

So I call busted. No suprise given the source.



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22 Mar 2025, 3:45 pm

No credible evidence supports claims of vast underground structures found beneath Egyptian pyramids

Basically, this is all hat and no cattle. Just crackpots with a long history of crackpottery and a paper that will never be peer-reviewed.


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22 Mar 2025, 5:21 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
No credible evidence supports claims of vast underground structures found beneath Egyptian pyramids

Basically, this is all hat and no cattle. Just crackpots with a long history of crackpottery and a paper that will never be peer-reviewed.


Yeah that's why I posted the Snopes link - point is the original story went viral and I was amazed how quickly the claims were debunked



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22 Mar 2025, 5:29 pm

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Lidar maps ground surface by reflecting laser light. It cannot map underground features. Even gpr, ground penetrating radar, would be unable to remotely map structures kilometers deep.

So I call busted. No suprise given the source.


Yeah that seems to be the biggest criticism of the claim. But why would international researchers from Scotland and Italy who are qualified remote sensing Engineers risk their entire reputations to make such a rookie error?

I am trying to locate the article from the Journal Communications Earth & Environment (Nature) where the images have been published, I think its behind a firewall? Nature is the most prestigious science journal on the planet so I wouldn't automatically call bunk just yet.



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22 Mar 2025, 5:48 pm

Ok I finally found a X update!

The claim from Corrado Malanga, from Italy's University of Pisa, and Filippo Biondi with the University of Strathclyde in Scotland has only been released during an in-person briefing in Italy (and in Italian) this week. While their paper has been submitted to Nature, Journal Communications Earth & Environment it has not been peer reviewed yet, the claim is they found eight vertical cylinder-shaped structures extending more than 2,100 feet below the pyramid and more unknown structures 4,000 feet deeper.

Here are the images released on social media to the Italian press

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The scientists claim the shafts were connected to larger, cubic structures. The team said there could be a hidden city below all three pyramids

According to a response on X from Professor Lawrence Conyers, a radar expert at the University of Denver who focuses on archaeology has countered that it is not possible for the LIDAR technology to penetrate that deeply into the ground, making the idea of an underground city 'a huge exaggeration.'

Ok, but why would two tenured academics make such a claim to an international audience risking their reputations and careers? something doesn't make sense.



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22 Mar 2025, 6:31 pm

cyberdora wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
No credible evidence supports claims of vast underground structures found beneath Egyptian pyramids

Basically, this is all hat and no cattle. Just crackpots with a long history of crackpottery and a paper that will never be peer-reviewed.


Yeah that's why I posted the Snopes link - point is the original story went viral and I was amazed how quickly the claims were debunked


The claims date to 2022, not 2025.

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Ok, but why would two tenured academics make such a claim to an international audience risking their reputations and careers? something doesn't make sense.


Why would two people with a long history of peddling pseudoscientific bunk publish a book peddling pseudoscientific bunk? They wanna get that bag.

Some people will be persuaded before the claims are debunked, but even after that occurs people without a shred of critical thinking will still peddle the claims made and just rely on conspiratorial thinking to ignore the arguments debunking the claims. People who are emotionally invested in BS often engage in double-think to avoid having to consider that they might have been duped because they want to feel special and believe that "doing their own research" from flawed sources makes them smarter than mainstream scientists who dismiss the BS.


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22 Mar 2025, 6:45 pm

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Why would two people with a long history of peddling pseudoscientific bunk publish a book peddling pseudoscientific bunk? They wanna get that bag.

Some people will be persuaded before the claims are debunked, but even after that occurs people without a shred of critical thinking will still peddle the claims made and just rely on conspiratorial thinking to ignore the arguments debunking the claims. People who are emotionally invested in BS often engage in double-think to avoid having to consider that they might have been duped because they want to feel special and believe that "doing their own research" from flawed sources makes them smarter than mainstream scientists who dismiss the BS.


Not sure if you are directing this at me but I am trying to evaluate the claims, why is that a form of double-think?
Please don't attack the messenger
I'm looking at their research history
https://scholar.google.it/citations?use ... AAAJ&hl=it
https://pisa.academia.edu/CorradoMalanga

So I never disputed their research is subject to criticism (I posted the SNOPES link and the rebuttal from Prof Conyers. But based on their research history, both Malanga and Biondi appear to be serious academics. Neither seem to have reason to basically sink their careers (which is what seems to be happening) so I am curious at their motivation.

Automatically attacking the person without actually investigating evidence is a form of ad hominem (last time I checked).



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22 Mar 2025, 6:52 pm

I'm just describing the mechanism behind the observation often attributed to Mark Twain:

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.


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22 Mar 2025, 7:01 pm

they seem to have gone to a lot of trouble
By the way, the 2022 reference may be to do with this paper
https://www.scirp.org/reference/referen ... id=3721831

But the current paper is not published, they have done what is usually expected, their pre-press manuscript has been shared with Italian media to publicise their work. I am waiting to hear what peer reviewers say. they obviously want their work to be peer reviewed hence my question why go to all this trouble to basically stand naked and embarrassed in front of the world?



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24 Mar 2025, 1:05 am

I believe within one week there will be a full video of the conference and the researchers have funding to conduct further work on Khafre's pyramid for 12 months and then the great pyramid. New information will including revealing a new SAR technique developed by the researchers themselves (address the sceptics criticism) that is ground penetrating that reveals 3D models deep below the pyramids.



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24 Mar 2025, 2:04 am

Keeps spreading around



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24 Mar 2025, 2:16 am