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23 Mar 2025, 1:55 am

Transphobe Has TOTAL Change of Heart After Hearing Trans People’s Stories: “I’d Like to Apologize”
The Humanist Report, Mar 21, 2025


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23 Mar 2025, 1:58 am

Transphobia Must Be Confronted
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23 Mar 2025, 8:23 am

You do not have to pass a "trans agenda" purity test, you may believe it is too "woke" and still believe what is going on is reminiscent of the early days of Nazi Germany. Those who read my posts know that usually I am offended by Nazi comparisons but this has gone beyond cancel culture to government policy and laws and incessant incitement.

While the anti "trans agenda" is being led and defined by bully transphobics far from everybody in favor of this are sadists who are getting their retribution via Trump on all the people who made them not express their opinions. The expression "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" applies to the latter group. Even if you believe all transgender people are mentally ill having government officials continually telling them that they are groomers and mutilators is harming them a lot more than helping them.


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23 Mar 2025, 9:01 am

Interestingly enough, one group that has been helped by lawmaker's transphobia is the community of crossdressers.
Once the outcasts of society, they are finding more acceptance than ever before.
They are cisgender men with the need to dress in women's clothes. Often, the onerous laws don't apply to them.

They have no desire to change their gender markers or get any sort of treatment, much like those on the forum who think they just fine the way they are.



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23 Mar 2025, 12:06 pm

BTDT wrote:
Interestingly enough, one group that has been helped by lawmaker's transphobia is the community of crossdressers.
Once the outcasts of society, they are finding more acceptance than ever before.
They are cisgender men with the need to dress in women's clothes. Often, the onerous laws don't apply to them.

They have no desire to change their gender markers or get any sort of treatment, much like those on the forum who think they just fine the way they are.

People often conflate transgenders and crossdressers. While technically these laws will not apply to them I can envision people assuming if you are a man who dresses as a women you identify as one. If convictions are overturned the laws will be revised to include crossdressers. What do you think the drag show bans are about? Let’s not kid ourselves the long term goal is put anything that is not traditional gender roles and sexual orientations back in the closet.


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23 Mar 2025, 12:33 pm

The current adminstration is trying to show that if you have money the laws don't apply to you.
Cisgender men who crossdress typically have lots of money to dress up and shop in retail stores.
That sort of activity is going to be hard to stop.



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23 Mar 2025, 1:12 pm

Nancy Mace is an absolutely gorgeous lady....


The honestly better question though is less about "trans acceptance" or coming up with some rules about who with what genitalia and attire should enter which latrine, but why all this now with so many genders and/or a huge explosion in the # of Trans people has only appeared now until relatively 10 seconds ago in Human history ? Is it something in the water ? I understand there was homosexuality before and all this, but there was nothing like this and no "issues" like this even before in the 70s and 80s and such, like with this kind of Do-si-Do in schools and facilities and everything and these kinds of crises and morphing of people in these ways. This stuff and "all these different genders" definitely wasn't coming up in the 1910s and 1920s or so on this large of scale, which to me "if this was real" I think would have been manifesting itself much more consistently and evidently.

To me it seems like the big system in the last couple of decades has just wanted many more people to be LGBTQ, so when they do foreign wars and such it's much more sensitive Western societies invading all these countries, so that for "soft power" it's much harder to complain.



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23 Mar 2025, 1:43 pm

Htaxu3 wrote:
Nancy Mace is an absolutely gorgeous lady....


The honestly better question though is less about "trans acceptance" or coming up with some rules about who with what genitalia and attire should enter which latrine, but why all this now with so many genders and/or a huge explosion in the # of Trans people has only appeared now until relatively 10 seconds ago in Human history ? Is it something in the water ? I understand there was homosexuality before and all this, but there was nothing like this and no "issues" like this even before in the 70s and 80s and such, like with this kind of Do-si-Do in schools and facilities and everything and these kinds of crises and morphing of people in these ways. This stuff and "all these different genders" definitely wasn't coming up in the 1910s and 1920s or so on this large of scale, which to me "if this was real" I think would have been manifesting itself much more consistently and evidently.

To me it seems like the big system in the last couple of decades has just wanted many more people to be LGBTQ, so when they do foreign wars and such it's much more sensitive Western societies invading all these countries, so that for "soft power" it's much harder to complain.

Is there a higher percentage of transgender people today or was there always the same percentage of transgender people but they were in the closet or they literally did not know because most people were literally ignorant about this topjc? While I am sympathetic to the latter possibility because while I heard of the term Autism I did not know I was Autistic until I was 55 years old, I have no clue what the answer is to my question is.


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23 Mar 2025, 2:38 pm

Htaxu3 wrote:
The honestly better question though is less about "trans acceptance" or coming up with some rules about who with what genitalia and attire should enter which latrine, but why all this now with so many genders and/or a huge explosion in the # of Trans people has only appeared now until relatively 10 seconds ago in Human history ? Is it something in the water ? I understand there was homosexuality before and all this, but there was nothing like this and no "issues" like this even before in the 70s and 80s and such, like with this kind of Do-si-Do in schools and facilities and everything and these kinds of crises and morphing of people in these ways. This stuff and "all these different genders" definitely wasn't coming up in the 1910s and 1920s or so on this large of scale, which to me "if this was real" I think would have been manifesting itself much more consistently and evidently.

As I see it, the dramatic increase in prominence of LGBTQ+ issues in 2010 to 2015 or so was due to two main factors:

1) As has happened several times before in American politics, a wave of Black community activism inspired waves of grassroots activism in other marginalized communities too. In 2010 to 2015, the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement inspired more activism in other marginalized subcultures including the LGBTQ+ community.

(The rise of BLM, in turn, was a consequence of two technological developments: (1) the advent of cell phone video cameras plus (2) YouTube, which made it much easier, than ever before, for ordinary people to document police brutality.)

2) The wave of LGBTQ+ community activism resulted in a wave of mass media coverage, not only in news but also in entertainment, e.g. in the Netflix series Orange Is the New Black.

Htaxu3 wrote:
To me it seems like the big system in the last couple of decades has just wanted many more people to be LGBTQ,

No such conspiracy theory is necessary if you understand how the politics of marginalized communities actually works.

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so when they do foreign wars and such it's much more sensitive Western societies invading all these countries, so that for "soft power" it's much harder to complain.

For the owners of mass media corporations, mass media coverage of LGBTQ+ issues serves the much simpler and more obvious purpose of attracting viewers' attention. Again, no conspiracy theory is necessary.

Nor is anyone in power specifically trying to make more people LGBTQ+. If it seems that more people are LGBTQ+, that's only because the progress of the LGBTQ+ rights movement has made it safer for people to come out of the closet in at least some places.


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23 Mar 2025, 2:49 pm

Htaxu3 wrote:
To me it seems like the big system in the last couple of decades has just wanted many more people to be LGBTQ...


Next will you blame the increasing percentage of left-handed people on a conspiracy too?

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It's all because of Big Left brainwashing kids to think left-hand dominance is natural and acceptable.


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23 Mar 2025, 3:30 pm

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People often conflate transgenders and crossdressers.

I should also point out that the word "transgender" has become narrower in meaning than it used to be.

The word "transgender" today is roughly equivalent to what was called "transsexual" thirty years ago. Back then, "transgender" was an umbrella term that encompassed not only what were then called "transsexuals," but also a variety of different kinds of gender nonconformity, including the folks who now would now be called "cisgender cross-dressers."

Back in around 1990-ish, when what was formerly called the "gay and lesbian" or "lesbian and gay" community re-named itself the "LGBT" community, the "T" stood for "transgender" in the broadest sense.

But, since then, the word "transsexual" went out of fashion. I'm not entirely sure why. My impression is that it had something to do with transsexual activists feeling that the word "transsexual" was too strongly associated with physical/medical transition, which was something that many of the people who wanted it could not afford.

Anyhow, with the demise of the word "transsexual," the word "transgender" gradually came to be thought of, more and more, as referring only to the people who used to be called "transsexuals."


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23 Mar 2025, 3:47 pm

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Interestingly enough, one group that has been helped by lawmaker's transphobia is the community of crossdressers.
Once the outcasts of society, they are finding more acceptance than ever before.
They are cisgender men with the need to dress in women's clothes. Often, the onerous laws don't apply to them.

Agreed that they have not been harmed by the onerous laws, but in what way have they been helped?

There has been quite a bit of right wing panic-mongering about things like "drag queen story hours" too, after all.

So it seems to me that cisgender crossdressers are not exempt from the dangers of today's wave of anti-LGBTQ+ hysteria. Even if no laws are likely to be passed against them, they can still be targets of hate crimes, at least.


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23 Mar 2025, 4:00 pm

We need to criminalize hate speech like Germany and Sweden have, but the powers that be (i.e. MAGAs) will never allow that to happen because they think such laws were designed to "silence" Conservatives or Christians.


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23 Mar 2025, 4:25 pm

I think this as possible in more progressive democracies (Scandinavia, Australia, Canada etc) but I see this as an uphill battle in catholic/muslim majority countries and in the United States.

The power/influence of American conservative christians provides a mandate for MAGA to pass all these anti-trans, anti-LGBTQI laws. It took 400 years for the United States to pass civil rights laws to recognise "all men are created equal". First step is counteract schools banning books or banning trans students using bathrooms etc. In Nazi germany schools were an important stage to plant propaganda in children. History seems to be repeating itself again.



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23 Mar 2025, 4:30 pm

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We need to criminalize hate speech like Germany and Sweden have, but the powers that be (i.e. MAGAs) will never allow that to happen because they think such laws were designed to "silence" Conservatives or Christians.


Careful, in Trump's America your comment is more likely to be banned as hate speech rather than actual hate speech being banned as hate speech.


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23 Mar 2025, 4:33 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Htaxu3 wrote:
To me it seems like the big system in the last couple of decades has just wanted many more people to be LGBTQ...


Next will you blame the increasing percentage of left-handed people on a conspiracy too?

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https://slowrevealgraphs.com/2021/11/08 ... a-society/

It's all because of Big Left brainwashing kids to think left-hand dominance is natural and acceptable.





Right, like being left-handed is anywhere near at the long-term level of seriousness or impact on peoples' lives like it is encouraging people to start switching their gender and going through surgeries and hormones. I find this analogy absolutely hilarious when it's brought up, like just because now apparently because there's "more lefthandedness", also all things trans from the big woke system has to be accepted no-questions-asked as well. Absurd.